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Eric
Takumi
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Location: Heerhugowaard
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Pics:
Compare this on the KE70
With this on the TE71
It makes me a happy bunny 
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JonnyAE86
Bunta
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Location: Yokohama - Portugal
1984 Toyota Corolla AE86 (early Levin)
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You gotta love rust 
Nice projects mate, keep it going!
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Eric
Takumi
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
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Location: Heerhugowaard
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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So, the TE71 is sold.
Today i fitted the T3 5 link kit to the KE70, fitted the rear AGX dampers, fitted the T3 lower control arms and tension control rods on the drivers side.
Will fit everything to the other side tomorrow.
I also took out the side windows because they were leaking.
Discovered two small rusty bits so i will see if i can fix that myself too.
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EE80Liftback
Takumi
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
Posts: 475
Location: Espoo, Finland
1990 Peugeot 309
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Eric"]So, the TE71 is sold.[quote]
Well I guess that makes sense as the condition of the KE70 is so good! Did you sell it to somebody who is going to restore it properly?
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The Doctor
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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jup, i spoke to the buyer yesterday! 
He has great plans with it!
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banpei
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Location: Hilversum
1982 Toyota Carina
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm... From what I understood from Eric he has a lot of courage then. Kind of an endurance restoration... 
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Eric
Takumi
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
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Location: Heerhugowaard
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I sold it to a friend of mine, he wont be "restoring" it, just make it driveable again as far as i know.
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banpei
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1982 Toyota Carina
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Isn't this something for your KE70:
Only 200RM (44 euro)
more info here:
http://tougeking.blogspot.com/2008/11/stuff-for-sale.html
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Eric
Takumi
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
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Location: Heerhugowaard
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Nice, what country is that from?
i send the guy an email
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oldskull
Bunta
Joined: 02 Nov 2005
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Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands
1985 Toyota Corolla AE86 (early Levin)
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Eric wrote: | | Nice, what country is that from? |
Malaysia
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Eric
Takumi
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Location: Heerhugowaard
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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fitted the T3 stuff...
the 86 camber plates dont exactly fit on the KE70, i had to drill a new hole.
the tension control rods bolt right on.
the lower control arms do too.
the outer tie rods fit too.
after that was don i started working on the coilover kit.
after disassebling my old damperhousing i tried to fit the sw20 damper into the ke70 damperhousing but they appear to be to small.
i had a set of supra front parts but they dont fit too 
So now i have to find some 86 front struts so i can finish my suspension.
Otherwise my rca's wont fit too..
on the back i fitted the agx dampers too, apex springs and a T3 5 link kit.
That was a straight fit.
Next thing: figure out brakes and the 20v blacktop install.
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EE80Liftback
Takumi
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Location: Espoo, Finland
1990 Peugeot 309
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: |
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I love shiny suspension bits!
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david
Itsuki
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Location: Norway
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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just out of curiosity, why do you want to use shocks from a mid engined car?
do you really think those shocks has the optimal valve sizings and settings for your car?
instead of buying shocks that's actually designed for your car, weight and weight distribution?
aaand I think you mounted the camber plate the wrong way (left vs right)
unless you for some stupid reason want less caster than stock
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Roku_trueno
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Do not leave that hole as it is, ( I mean the old one on the front strut) for obvious reasons... 
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Eric
Takumi
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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David: i bought the shocks from the aeu96.org shop, i guess they know what they are selling, as far as i know this is the most common set used on the 86.
left vs. right? as far as i know there was no differenci in left or right, just the shape of the plate itself. ill have another look at that.
Roku: i will weld up the hole
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banpei
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1982 Toyota Carina
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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@David: the sw20 front shocks (just like the ae92 shocks) are short-stroke shocks. That means that the distance travelled by the shock is shorter. The reason of this is that if you change the springs to stiffer and shorter springs the standard shocks won't be working optimal anymore because they are stuck at somewhere along the way of their travel all the time.
@Eric: They are indeed too short, so you need both cut the strut and add a spacer. A good how-to can be found at Club4AG:
http://www.club4ag.com/faq_and_tech_pages/Short...%20Conversion.htm
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Eric
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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I know they are too short, that is not the problem. the problem is they dont fit the KE70 housing
So i need to find 86 front housing now
it is like a needle in a haystack so it seems..
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banpei
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Ah right... I googled upon that because I remembered DK complaining about that as well on his KE70... Here is the answer:
http://www.rollaclub.com/board/index.php?showto...post&p=167055
It looks like your KE70 then probably fitted with early type struts. 
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Eric
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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that's correct.
it has the same type of struts as my ke35 had.
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The Doctor
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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thinking about that... indeed, because the later KE70s also had the same fitment in the topmounts as the AE86s had.
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david
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| banpei wrote: | @David: the sw20 front shocks (just like the ae92 shocks) are short-stroke shocks. That means that the distance travelled by the shock is shorter. The reason of this is that if you change the springs to stiffer and shorter springs the standard shocks won't be working optimal anymore because they are stuck at somewhere along the way of their travel all the time.
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I'm not talking about suspension travel or ride height, I'm talking about stiffness and damper characteristics.
the sw20 front shock is setup to be used on a rear heavy car that weight alot more than a ke70/AE86, for optimal performance you cannot use this damper, I know alot of you do, but you could do much better if you did a little research, because you would find a damper that is much more suited to the ke70/ae86 without going custom or paying alot of money.
same goes for the rear, I know the camaro damper is used but why do you want to put on a shock that has damping characteristics for a car that weight 2 or 3 times more than a KE70/AE86???
sure, if you don't care how your car will handle, and will just drive to the grocery and do burnouts it wouldn't matter...
and if your shock has adjustments and you think you can adjust the damping force to suit your car you obviously don't know alot of dampers...
if you think I'm stupid that are saying this, I can tell you that I'm only trying to help you build your car better
another thing I can point on is the tension rod you got, you probably noticed the "U" bracket that goes between the uniball and factory mount, I do not recommend using this because of the shorter rod length, the suspension geometry will be worse than stock if you have enough travel..
if the T3 pieces has enough adjustments for it I recommend removing the "internals" of the factory chassis mount mount, and drill a hole through just like the TRD N2/CUSCO tension rods at stock position or even 2cm further to the front if possible
and I saw you got a pre'82 ke70, that's why you have less caster.
edit:
you can use the TE71 struts but they have different bolt pattern than AE86 struts for the caliper bracket
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Eric
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:23 am Post subject: |
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no one is calling you stupid, we are just ignorant...
i do indeed have a pre '82 KE70.
so you say my TE71 struts should fit? no matter what year they are? is this because they came with a bigger and heavier engine from the factory?
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banpei
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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@david:
I dunno what weight your average 1982 camaro has, but it does not exceed 1 1/2 times the AE86. I think you're exaggerating a bit here...
You're right that the Camaro shocks are much stiffer than the Corolla shocks and yes they will give you a bumpy ride compared to the OEM shocks. Same goes for the SW20 shocks: the SW20 has a weight distribution of 42:58 while the hachi has 53:47.
But you're surpassing the actual purpose of this mod: it is an adjustable suspension (adjustable without taking anything loose!) for the price of a set konis. If you would like such a suspension for the AE86 from any other brand you pay at least twice the price.
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Ivan141
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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ae92 koni's perhaps?
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Sx-Machine
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Koni's suck...
When you're not after the fastest laptimes. the sw20/camaro setup will do just fine.
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