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rikard Takumi
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 407
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: UK (Japan) Import and the RDW |
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Hi guys
I am in the process of buying a UK registerd AE86 that orginally was imported from Japan. I want to put the car on Dutch plates, do I need to just get a APK or do I have to pay for the 1000 Euro RDW inspection?
Anybody knows how this should be done??
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Blackmane Wataru
Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 97 Location: Maastricht, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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I think you'll only need the apk. The 1000 euro thing is for cars that haven't been registered in europe yet if I'm not mistaken. Seeing how yours already has uk plates it's registered in europe already so it'll only need apk plus bpm, if any is left, mind you, the apk needs to be done at an rdw station though but that's kind of logical.
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The Doctor Bunta
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 2185 Location: Goirle, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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you get the car, drive/trailer it to an RDW station, let it check for legislation (NO APK, just importcheck), get a dutch set of papers(think you can only do that if your dutch) and then make a set of plates. Then you can have it checked for the APK.
You can do an APK too at the RDW, at the same time with importcheck, but they are more strict then needed (they failed an Citroen with a new, on original holes spotwelded sill, because the welds were too far apart )
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E-volve Takumi
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 206 Location: Beverwijk, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Why not Dutch? :p
They aren't always that strict, like any other APK station it depends on the man and its mood. (sex or no sex last night?).
I've seen imports where they only check the chassiscode.
Allin, the check, including papers, bpm, mot etc. it will be around 400-500 euros for an AE.
Something like:
-125 import and registration (not sure if papers are included).
-25 mot
-250-350 for bpm
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Blackmane Wataru
Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 97 Location: Maastricht, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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I stand corrected on that then, 
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rikard Takumi
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 407
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info guys
no Dutch because my Dutch writing sucks as I have lived abroad for most of my life!
So, it is 100% correct, no 1000 euro inspection is needed? Anybody has a number I can call at the RDW to confirm this?
Also does the car need to be registerd in the UK for a while before it can be brought across without the 1000 euro inspection or is a few months ok? I think the car has only been registerd in the UK for 4 months since it came from Japan:?
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Ivan141 Moderator
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 4762 Location: Netherlands Z-H
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I think the expensive inspection is only for cars that were never sold over here.. hatchback ae86 we're sold even in holland (about 4 or 5), so it's likely that it wont need a full inspection.
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Blackmane Wataru
Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 97 Location: Maastricht, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't that for cars that don't have a european type approval (europese typegoedkeuring, weet niet hoe dat in het engels heet)?
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rikard Takumi
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 407
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Ivan141 wrote: | | I think the expensive inspection is only for cars that were never sold over here.. hatchback ae86 we're sold even in holland (about 4 or 5), so it's likely that it wont need a full inspection. |
Mine is a coupe (again, my 3rd one) so more than 4 or 5 were sold but it does not have a European Certificate of Conformaty (CoC); you only get a CoC for cars sold for the European market.
I do not know if the MOT in the UK makes it a car with EU type approval, does it?
What did the guy with the white RHD levin from the UK (Japan) do? Or guys that buy UK registerd Skylines and then bring them to Holland?
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oldskull Bunta
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 1403 Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Did you going to buy Paz's 2 doors levin?
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rikard Takumi
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 407
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| oldskull wrote: | | Did you going to buy Paz's 2 doors levin? |
Yes I did, will pick it up in a few weeks time 
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oldskull Bunta
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 1403 Location: Blaricum, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Cool looking car!! hope everything going smooth with RDW 
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E-volve Takumi
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 206 Location: Beverwijk, The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: |
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When a car has an European approval, its like i imported mine from Belgium. That the car is RHD, its nog problem, as long as you change the headlights with LHD. RHD rules
This is exactly why most of the Japanese Cars here in Holland, go over the UK for that European approval. As long as you got all the papers, the amount of money will be something like i said.
You could ask Prophecy Imports from SXOC.nl, he has imported the Japanese Levin that El Chico used to have.
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rikard Takumi
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 407
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| E-volve wrote: | When a car has an European approval, its like i imported mine from Belgium. That the car is RHD, its nog problem, as long as you change the headlights with LHD. RHD rules
This is exactly why most of the Japanese Cars here in Holland, go over the UK for that European approval. As long as you got all the papers, the amount of money will be something like i said.
You could ask Prophecy Imports from SXOC.nl, he has imported the Japanese Levin that El Chico used to have. |
Thanks a lot for the feedback. Will talk to the RDW and then set up an appointment and get it sorted in a few weeks time. 
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E-volve Takumi
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 206 Location: Beverwijk, The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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You can go to the RDW all morning without any appointment nowadays.
But you still have to wait for people who have an appointment.
And don't think you'll be ready in 2 hours, those fuckers can take you almost all day with all kinds of stuff. Especially in Am*dam...
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cavey Takumi
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 306 Location: Arnemuiden, Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: |
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ff dit draadje kapen.
Had vorige week aan toyota duitsland gevraagd om CVO documenten, maar kreeg gisteren een brief dat ze deze niet konden leveren omdat de auto uit japan kwam (Toyota (J) op het duitse fahrzeugschein).
Moet ik dan alsnog bij de nederlandse toyo importeur een CVO aanvragen, of gewoon naar de RDW gaan, en hopen dat ze niet moeilijk gaan doen omdat het CVO ontbreekt? (Ik meen ergens gelezen te hebben op de RDW site dat een CVO verplicht is voor auto's die voor 1996 of iets dergelijks gebouwd zijn).
De auto heeft op de duitse wegen rond gereden, dus ergens moet er wel een europese typegoedkeuring rondslingeren voor deze auto.
Beetje confused
ps: ik wou cheap doen, en bij toyo.de het CVO aanvragen, omdat die het kosteloos doen bij origineel en kopie aanvraag (daarna kost het meteen 80 euro ex btw >_< )... bij toyo nederland zou het meteen 50 euro zijn omdat de auto uit het buitenland komt )
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The Doctor Bunta
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 2185 Location: Goirle, The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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wat is het CVO?
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cavey Takumi
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 306 Location: Arnemuiden, Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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certificate of conformancy (COC)
certificaat van overeenkomst (CVO)
papier wat de RDW nodig heeft voor het overnemen van de gegevens.
Naja, heb net Toyo.nl gebeld, en aanvraag formulier voor CVO ingevuld, ingescand, en gemaild. Hopelijk kunnen zij wel een CVO uitpoepen zonder geneuzel/verwijzingen naar databases bij Toyo Europa te Brussel
Zo'n document is beetje het verschil denk ik zo tussen gewoon in kunnen schrijven, of een RDW inspectie. Misschien maak ik me zorgen om niks.
De mevrouw bij Toyo.nl kon zich ook niet echt voorstellen waarom ze in duitsland geen CVO op konden snorren, aangezien de auto toch in duitsland op de weg is geweest.
Naja, ik wacht af nu waar toyo.nl mee komt. Ondertussen, maak ik me te druk om dit papiertje, en zal het allemaal reuze meevallen met importeren?
Aangezien er hier meer mensen geimporteerd hebben, slingert er vast nog wel wat ervaring over rond 
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The Doctor Bunta
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 2185 Location: Goirle, The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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en wat staat er dan op dat CVO?
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cavey Takumi
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 306 Location: Arnemuiden, Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: |
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geen flauw idee. Gegevens die de RDW over kan nemen bij het registreren van de auto gegevens. En of het om een europees goed gekeurde auto gaat (europese type goedkeuring). Certificaat van Overeenkomst: het voldoet aan de europese normen.
Het rare is dus, dat de auto in duitsland op de weg heeft gereden (dus naar alle waarschijnlijkheid een europese type goedkeuring heeft, en dus ergens een CVO van moet rond slingeren), maar dat ze die vanuit Duitsland in ieder geval niet kunnen/willen geven omdat het om een auto gaat die niet in Europa is gemaakt, maar in Japan is gemaakt.
Ik snap er ook niks van hoor, ben in deze maar een papegaai.
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cavey Takumi
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 306 Location: Arnemuiden, Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Slecht nieuws:
> Geachte heer
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> Naar aanleiding van uw CVO aanvraag van genoemde auto het volgende.
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> Voor deze Corolla AE86 in geen CVO en is geen nationale (Nederlandse
> typegoedkeuring) beschikbaar omdat dit model (volgens de aan het
> chassisnummer gekoppelde modelinformatie) speciaal gefabriceerd voor
> Duitsland en nooit door ons is geïmporteerd .
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> Wij adviseren u daarom contact op te nemen met;
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> 1. de importeur in Duitsland en bij hen navraag te doen of er een Duitse
> typegoedkeuring beschikbaar is
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> 2. te informeren bij de RDW of middels een kopie van de Duitse
> typegoedkeuring de auto toegelaten kan worden in Nederland.
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> Het spijt ons u niet beter van dienst te kunnen zijn
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Iemand ideeen? Want stap 1 heb ik al gedaan...
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The Doctor Bunta
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 2185 Location: Goirle, The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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misschien heeft iemand nog een NL kenteken voor je liggen? 
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cavey Takumi
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 306 Location: Arnemuiden, Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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ok, ik heb wat antwoorden.
Na kastje muur (toyo.de, toyo.nl) de RDW gebeld. Ik heb geen CVO nodig, omdat die zo in 1986 nog niet eens bestonden.
Kentekenbewijs was voldoende (en een afspraak).

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The Doctor Bunta
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 2185 Location: Goirle, The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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lol, over instanties die langs elkaar afwerken gesproken....
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Mux213 Site Admin
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 7234 Location: Australie
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hehehehe, damn gaat dat lekker.
Ik zou gewoon vragen of een zooi nederlandse eigenaren met je mee gaan en dan naar de RDW gast lopen: Kijk, allemaal originele NL wagens, exact hetzelfde als de mijne, hoe bedoelt u, geen NL goedkeuring?!?
Even serieus, een kenteken en serie nummer van een van onze bevriende NL eigenaren zou genoeg moeten zijn om aan te tonen dat deze wagens in dezelfde uitvoering in NL zijn afgelevert.
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