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jakimany
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 8
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: Throttle Bodies for 4age. What they gives? |
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Hello!
I have possibility to buy individual throttle bodies to my 4age and I need your help. How much hp (about) it gives? What are other advantages? Better response to accelleration?
I must know before buy if this really worth it
Thanks a lot!
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nzae86 Wataru
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Hamilton New Zealand
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Hi there
On my car which I ran on the dyno before and after fitting quad throttles , I gained no more hp overall but more mid range power . Keep in mind you will probably have to run an aftermarket computer as well
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Roku_trueno Takumi
Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 460 Location: Greece
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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You will definitely have better throttle response. To gain a respectable amount of hp, you will have to change ECU, camshafts and exhaust to match the ITB's setup. An increase to engine compression will give you even more power, and together with a good header you can reach about 200hp (with "huge" camshafts of course... ). And don't forget the sound! Man this sound is so awesome, that is a good reason to go for ITB's!!! 
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jakimany
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 8
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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My 4age 16V is allready fully tuned. I've got:
-lightened flywhell
-really, really high compression (I'm not mechanic, but I know that the header is planned or something and I've got about 16bars)
-exhaust is also customed
It had aftermarket computer (SMT6) but it was making a lot of trouble and now it's just standard.
Yeah, SOUND!!! I can just imagine how it will sound! (if now is really great!)
200hp?? You think so?? But propably with a lot o troubles and problems :/
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F0Bman Takumi
Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 225
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen ITB produce 10-12 HP through out the power band.
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jondee86 Takumi
Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 237 Location: New Zealand
1984 Toyota Corolla AE86 (early Levin)
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: Music to my ears :) |
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| F0Bman wrote: | | I've seen ITB produce 10-12 HP through out the power band. |
This would be a reasonable expectation. ITB's will flow more air due to
the "cleaner" design of the intake. And since the air path to each cylinder
is identical, you can tune more aggressively, rather than having to tune
to the leanest cylinder.
The cool sound and improved throttle response are a bonus
Cheers... jondee86
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byd1380 Wataru
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 80 Location: Belfast - Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: |
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I agree, they wouldn't give massive HP gains but better mid range and off course the noise!! Vid of my 4AGE with ITB's and standalone ECU.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5gmWtm-9ro&feature=user
Ivan
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jakimany
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 8
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! Great project! MG + 4age that's just awsome!
What ECU you're using? (and how much did you payed for that ) It was a lot of problems with my SMT6 (it was losing maps when acu was not connected), that's why now is standard one.
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byd1380 Wataru
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 80 Location: Belfast - Northern Ireland
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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I run a Perfectpower, XMSL, it was about 500quid GBP and does everything well, nothing fancy, but works ok for me, I have fitted it to another car aswell, no probs.
if you need any info let me know.
Ivan
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rooty Iketani
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 28
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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longer stacks = more midrange torque
shorter stacks = more hp @ higher RPMs, but you'll lose bottom
short stacks inside original plenum + stock intake = hp and torque gain @ midrange
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Eircamae86 Takumi
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 460 Location: EIRE
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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A lads 200BHP,,,, Port, polish, head work, under bucket shims, massive cams, high comp pistons,,,,,,on,,,,on.
200 is easy with $$$$$
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Miguel - Newera Ryousuke
Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 171 Location: Tokyo, Japan!
1985 Toyota Corolla AE86 (late JDM Levin)
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: |
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200 bhp takes $$$$ AND knowledge / tallent . I woudn't say it's easy for the home DIY tuner to make a 4AGE engine that powerful.
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Roku_trueno Takumi
Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 460 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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It definitely needs knowledge and LOTS of skills, for sure it's not easy, but it's totally possible to do!
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jamiemirror Bunta
Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 1795 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
1984 Toyota Corolla AE86 (early Levin)
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: +1 |
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| rooty wrote: | longer stacks = more midrange torque
shorter stacks = more hp @ higher RPMs, but you'll lose bottom
short stacks inside original plenum + stock intake = hp and torque gain @ midrange |
Shape is important too ! See flow change.

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F0Bman Takumi
Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 225
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:42 am Post subject: |
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FA uses them and they get crazy response.
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