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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Zandvoort 17-10-2007 Reply with quote

Yesterday me, Michel H, Robokill and IBMFC3S where out at Zandvoort having some fun.

I'll be collecting pictures again from various sites Smile these were taken by our good friends at www.autopics.nl


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you guys see the white starlet (with 4A-GE in?) Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, he had already left when we arrived (actually saw him driving away just as I exited the roundabout, shame about the timing). We did the late night Gummen session, not the during the day free driving session.

So Calavera has his 4AG in there now?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jep, his first test run yesterday Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the track times? You guys beginning to get faster while you practice more?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats ashame of these days (or maybe not), no registration of track times so I have no idea..

But it feels like I'm getting faster, though yesterday I wasn't driving my best lines, I was a bit tired so I took it easy.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a good excuse too, my front left fender was just barely touching the sidewall of ze tyre , not really harmful but still, made this creepy sound and got worse when applying more lock so couldn't just throw ze car into ze corner like usual, had to be careful Sad So ended up driving on like 85/90% but still faster then last time.

One thing I noticed though is the amount of wheelspin on corner-exit. I usually never had wheelspin unless you really want to from a standing stop and just flooring it, but never on the track. Now with a bit more negative camber (total -1,49º) sometimes it just lacks grip so have to be a bit more careful.. but good thing is cornerspeeds are much better now ! So can't wait to have the rear shocks replaced too ( only fronts are replaced for now ) and then a GOOD day at the uhm.. uitlijn-specialist Very Happy Then it'll be mucho better !

Robocop was pretty fast, I couldn't really push it but still, very good !
Fun to drive behind him and see a little angle of oversteer in every corner Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like that 205 also had some problems with a fender rubbing the tire...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



It did vroem vroem Smile We got it up and running on the tuesdaynight on 1am or so. And next day.. the full testdrive on the track. Ending with full slicks on the last heat. I think i can keep up with you now, Mux Wink Last time I missed a bit of power.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calavera,

You can keep up with me now?

Man I think I'm fast becoming the slowest here... You, Robo and Michel are gonne run circles around me..

Looks like that 4AG fits in very nicely, asif it was ment to be in there! Looks like a nice job!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were all to late! I was there from 12:30 -> 14:30 but didn't see you guy's. Well, mabey the white starlet, if he remembers seeing an Yellow Black Rx7 sliding around the place then we did meet.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need some difrent sway bars ..... I never thought I would be saying that but the damn thing just roles to miuch. camber on the front side would help a bit with cornering.

Lots to be done to build a good race car


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Robokill,
2 questions:
What size/brand tires do you use on your racer?
what lap times are you doing?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

senna wrote:
You were all to late! I was there from 12:30 -> 14:30 but didn't see you guy's. Well, mabey the white starlet, if he remembers seeing an Yellow Black Rx7 sliding around the place then we did meet.

No we were smarter then you.

You paid 20 euros for 20 minutes.
We paid 80 euros for 120 minutes.

You drove with zillion others
We had the track to ourselves Smile

Next time join us Puh

All jokes aside, real shame we didn't meet man, I still want to try out your new RX7!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senna, yes i saw you're driving, is that the Yellow-Black RX that was for sale @ eurorotor a few years ago?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that's me. I gave myself an handicap by setting the suspension on "hard"
thing was sliding all over the place, but it was good fun. I was too lazy to swap my 16inch everyday tires for the normal 15inch track ones. Made the car a lot slower in it's response. But since i only came out to test some new parts I installed, it didn't really matter.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was driving the toyo proxes damn those tires suck ...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How come they suck Robo ? I always hear good things about the proxes.. what's wrong with them ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVSNrE65LvI


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had proxes TR-1 on my oz rims. They have good grip on wet and dry while they are prettu new. Once they are a bit worn they start to suck at grip in the wet.

Maybe the good grip is bad for his drifting Puh

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T1R-s and T1-S's are famous for relying on a relatively soft tire compound for high grip, and a relatively soft sidewall to provide comfort. This has led to a sort of love/hate relationship between many people and this tire, depending on the kind of car you drive and the kind of driver you are.
I think that they should work really well under an AE86, as long as you are smooth en have decent tire pressures. For the money, no tire comes close.


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