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scotty
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Dundee
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:23 am Post subject: AE86 gearbox?? |
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Looking at getting a change to my knackered gearbox, been looking at changing to the sierra box.
Has anyone done this to their own car or know of anyone that has done this to any other car and what the strength of the box is like compared to the T50?
Or does anyone know of any good T50 boxes on the market just now?
Regards Scott 
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banpei Site Admin
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 8085 Location: Hilversum
1982 Toyota Carina
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:13 am Post subject: |
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As I understood the Sierra box is one of the most widely used gearboxes for uprating any car. But I haven't heard anybody about swapping one inside a hachi though.
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S.K. Takumi
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 251 Location: Vähäkyrö, Finland
1986 Toyota Corolla AE86 (late EU)
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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I have use a Escort´s "big" gearbox in 2T-G with aluminium middleplate between gearbox and 2T-bellhousing.
I used a 2T`s flywheel, Escort´s clutchplate and 2T-clucth cover.
I can take a pictuer from it, I still have it.
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scotty
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Dundee
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| banpei wrote: | | As I understood the Sierra box is one of the most widely used gearboxes for uprating any car. But I haven't heard anybody about swapping one inside a hachi though. |
I have just heard of this uprate not long back and was curious if anyone else had actually done this. My gearbox is beyond repair and this seems like the only option i have at the present time. Fensport sell a bellhousing for connecting it to the 4-AGE and the uprated clutch, i've managed to find a place that sells re-conditioned 1600 boxes as well.
Regards Scott 
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totta Crolla Takumi
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 247 Location: Oxford U.K
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I am running a sierra type 9 'box.
Here is some info:
A bellhousing is available, Raw engineering do one but it is expensive and is likely to need modification. An RM sport one is what you need, I believe this can be used with both sizes of flywheel but is worth checking.
I know where a used RM bellhousing is for sale.
You will need to fit a different sized spigot bearing to the crank, use Raw engineering for this.
Use a Toyota clutch cover and an MGB clutch plate (200mm)
A modification will need to be done to the release bearing, boring out the Toyota one I think.
You will also need to modify the rear gearbox mount. I believe Gartrac can do this for you.
The propshaft will need to be fitted with a Ford end to fit the gearbox, this will mean a modified prop.
The gearlever hole will need a slight mod.
Is it worth it ? Type 9 gearboxes are ten a penny and quite strong. The only downside is that first gear is a little short in my opinion. I have a new Quaife type 9 ready to fit.......
2.8 capri boxes have better ratios but the input shaft is too long, this can be shortened quite easily.
hth
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scotty
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Dundee
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| rotational spare wrote: | Hi, I am running a sierra type 9 'box.
Here is some info:
A bellhousing is available, Raw engineering do one but it is expensive and is likely to need modification. An RM sport one is what you need, I believe this can be used with both sizes of flywheel but is worth checking.
I know where a used RM bellhousing is for sale.
You will need to fit a different sized spigot bearing to the crank, use Raw engineering for this.
Use a Toyota clutch cover and an MGB clutch plate (200mm)
A modification will need to be done to the release bearing, boring out the Toyota one I think.
You will also need to modify the rear gearbox mount. I believe Gartrac can do this for you.
The propshaft will need to be fitted with a Ford end to fit the gearbox, this will mean a modified prop.
The gearlever hole will need a slight mod.
Is it worth it ? Type 9 gearboxes are ten a penny and quite strong. The only downside is that first gear is a little short in my opinion. I have a new Quaife type 9 ready to fit.......
2.8 capri boxes have better ratios but the input shaft is too long, this can be shortened quite easily.
hth |
Cheers for that info thats helped quite a bit
I've been able to source pretty much all of the parts already, i'll pass this info on to the garage thats going to be doing the work just so they can have a look.
Regards Scott 
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oldeskewltoy Takumi
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 275 Location: PDX, Oregon, USA
1987 Toyota Corolla AE86 (late US)
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dazed_driver Iketani
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 35 Location: Washington, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone else have anymore info or pics about putting a Type 9 in the corolla? I've been wanting to do it for my rally car.
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scotty
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Dundee
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm getting it done just now...the garage thats doing it seemed to think it shouldn't be too difficult to do. I'll be going along somepoint this week to have a nosey so i'll give you their opinions on how its going.
Regards Scott 
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adomz Bunta
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 808 Location: Ilford, London, UK
1983 Toyota Corolla AE86 (early Levin)
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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haha....good...the sort of thing i was thinking of doing to my corolla!
great stuff! ill have a read bout it all!
cheers, adam 
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dazed_driver Iketani
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 35 Location: Washington, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Any news?
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dazed_driver Iketani
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 35 Location: Washington, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:07 am Post subject: |
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*whistles innocently* pics yet? 
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