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scotty




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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: AE86 gearbox?? Reply with quote

Looking at getting a change to my knackered gearbox, been looking at changing to the sierra box.

Has anyone done this to their own car or know of anyone that has done this to any other car and what the strength of the box is like compared to the T50?

Or does anyone know of any good T50 boxes on the market just now?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I understood the Sierra box is one of the most widely used gearboxes for uprating any car. But I haven't heard anybody about swapping one inside a hachi though.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have use a Escort´s "big" gearbox in 2T-G with aluminium middleplate between gearbox and 2T-bellhousing.
I used a 2T`s flywheel, Escort´s clutchplate and 2T-clucth cover.
I can take a pictuer from it, I still have it.


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scotty




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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

banpei wrote:
As I understood the Sierra box is one of the most widely used gearboxes for uprating any car. But I haven't heard anybody about swapping one inside a hachi though.


I have just heard of this uprate not long back and was curious if anyone else had actually done this. My gearbox is beyond repair and this seems like the only option i have at the present time. Fensport sell a bellhousing for connecting it to the 4-AGE and the uprated clutch, i've managed to find a place that sells re-conditioned 1600 boxes as well.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I am running a sierra type 9 'box.
Here is some info:
A bellhousing is available, Raw engineering do one but it is expensive and is likely to need modification. An RM sport one is what you need, I believe this can be used with both sizes of flywheel but is worth checking.
I know where a used RM bellhousing is for sale.
You will need to fit a different sized spigot bearing to the crank, use Raw engineering for this.
Use a Toyota clutch cover and an MGB clutch plate (200mm)
A modification will need to be done to the release bearing, boring out the Toyota one I think.
You will also need to modify the rear gearbox mount. I believe Gartrac can do this for you.
The propshaft will need to be fitted with a Ford end to fit the gearbox, this will mean a modified prop.
The gearlever hole will need a slight mod.

Is it worth it ? Type 9 gearboxes are ten a penny and quite strong. The only downside is that first gear is a little short in my opinion. I have a new Quaife type 9 ready to fit.......
2.8 capri boxes have better ratios but the input shaft is too long, this can be shortened quite easily.
hth


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rotational spare wrote:
Hi, I am running a sierra type 9 'box.
Here is some info:
A bellhousing is available, Raw engineering do one but it is expensive and is likely to need modification. An RM sport one is what you need, I believe this can be used with both sizes of flywheel but is worth checking.
I know where a used RM bellhousing is for sale.
You will need to fit a different sized spigot bearing to the crank, use Raw engineering for this.
Use a Toyota clutch cover and an MGB clutch plate (200mm)
A modification will need to be done to the release bearing, boring out the Toyota one I think.
You will also need to modify the rear gearbox mount. I believe Gartrac can do this for you.
The propshaft will need to be fitted with a Ford end to fit the gearbox, this will mean a modified prop.
The gearlever hole will need a slight mod.

Is it worth it ? Type 9 gearboxes are ten a penny and quite strong. The only downside is that first gear is a little short in my opinion. I have a new Quaife type 9 ready to fit.......
2.8 capri boxes have better ratios but the input shaft is too long, this can be shortened quite easily.
hth


Cheers for that info thats helped quite a bit Thumbsup
I've been able to source pretty much all of the parts already, i'll pass this info on to the garage thats going to be doing the work just so they can have a look.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting closer......


http://www.aeu86.org/viewtopic/t50-to-az6___-a-...box-issues/t/4283

The link below has the same basic info... but I've been updating that more recently....
http://forums.club4ag.com/zerothread?id=830&page=1


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone else have anymore info or pics about putting a Type 9 in the corolla? I've been wanting to do it for my rally car.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting it done just now...the garage thats doing it seemed to think it shouldn't be too difficult to do. I'll be going along somepoint this week to have a nosey so i'll give you their opinions on how its going.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha....good...the sort of thing i was thinking of doing to my corolla!

great stuff! ill have a read bout it all!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any news?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*whistles innocently* pics yet? Very Happy

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