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Rasteirinho Bunta
Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 507 Location: Porto - Portugal
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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86 it's because the engine has 86mm bore and 86mm stroke
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Uzelac Bunta
Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 832 Location: Zemun, Srbija
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, right
And on every other slide of their presentation is AE86, and 86x86mm engine is mentioned once or twice
Although, very nice to see so many 86'es
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aussiefan Takumi
Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 334 Location: Austria/Vienna
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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TOYOTA 86
WIDE body kit
VERTEX EDGE Prototype
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danielvanderwoude Ryousuke
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 157 Location: Waddinxveen, The Netherlands
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Lauren Takumi
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 226 Location: Greater Manchester UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Popped down to my local dealer today. Ordered some bits for my car and also had a chat with the manager who is very keen for me to get my car in the showroom when their display GT86 arrives. :+:
Also picked up a GT86 brochure which came in yesterday apparently:
GT86:
The heritage:
The legend:
Interior:
Posey shot:
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Bean Bandit Bunta
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 1410 Location: Khartoum/Sudan & Switzerland
1986 Toyota Corolla AE86 (late EU)
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Can you maybe also scan the official spec sheet, if it's in the brochure.
Another thing I'm curious about which wasn't clearly visible on pictures so far is the idea to have a cutout/removable panel on the dash to fit a rollcage as planed in the concept but never heared if it this idea actualy made it into production. Judging by the full blown doorpanels compared to the concept I guess not
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fkn16v Iketani
Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 43 Location: East Coast, Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Bean Bandit wrote: | Can you maybe also scan the official spec sheet, if it's in the brochure.
Another thing I'm curious about which wasn't clearly visible on pictures so far is the idea to have a cutout/removable panel on the dash to fit a rollcage as planed in the concept but never heared if it this idea actualy made it into production. Judging by the full blown doorpanels compared to the concept I guess not  |
No removable panel that im aware of, but roll cages have been fitted just not 100% on whether the stock dash was used or not, ill have a quick look.
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fkn16v Iketani
Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 43 Location: East Coast, Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Definately no panel to remove.
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fkn16v Iketani
Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 43 Location: East Coast, Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Bean Bandit Bunta
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 1410 Location: Khartoum/Sudan & Switzerland
1986 Toyota Corolla AE86 (late EU)
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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If that in the corners are speakers one might be able to take those out in the case the go all the way out to the edge but I guess they didn't thought of that either anymore.
I still think it's a nice car just a shame the didn't stick to more ideas of the concept.
I'm aware that due to todays regulations most concept cars can't be built 100% the same for production but small things like that shouldn't have been an issue.
Especially on a car that is beeing promoted as one with a racing heritage and one of the most thoughtful concept version.
I guess I'll keep it old school. Untill some manufacturer really gets 99% right on the production model.
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bakonick Ryousuke
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Posts: 136 Location: Kalamata Greece
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:38 am Post subject: AE86 |
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my personal opinion .
this car is not goin to be any good for only one reason .
the subaru engine they are the worst engines in n/a and in turbo mode.
what they was thinkin this japs this time i dont get it .
they was havin the 3sge or use the s2000 engine .
subaru ?????
for me the sole of the car is the engine and the sound that is makin .
take example alfa romeo not good cars bat many love them becose alfas engine have great sound .
what is to like in the stupid subaru ?
is like an engine miss firing .
also is the week piont of porsche also thats why porsce never win the name from ferrari many ferraris was far more slow or stupid made from porsche bat always they was makin the SOUND.
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Bean Bandit Bunta
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 1410 Location: Khartoum/Sudan & Switzerland
1986 Toyota Corolla AE86 (late EU)
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:00 am Post subject: Re: AE86 |
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| bakonick wrote: | my personal opinion .
this car is not goin to be any good for only one reason .
the subaru engine they are the worst engines in n/a and in turbo mode.
what they was thinkin this japs this time i dont get it .
they was havin the 3sge or use the s2000 engine .
subaru ?????
for me the sole of the car is the engine and the sound that is makin .
take example alfa romeo not good cars bat many love them becose alfas engine have great sound .
what is to like in the stupid subaru ?
is like an engine miss firing .
also is the week piont of porsche also thats why porsce never win the name from ferrari many ferraris was far more slow or stupid made from porsche bat always they was makin the SOUND. |
Well that's a matter of taste really - I've got nothing about boxer engines and from am emgineering standpoint they are good engines.
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Lauren Takumi
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 226 Location: Greater Manchester UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Blimey I cannot believe that people are negative about it on here.
It's my perfect daily driver for when my AE86 gets a more comfortable life. The GT86 has enough power to exploit the chassis and can do around 40mpg. Sounds absolutely perfect to me.
If the road reviews are as good as the track reviews then we may well have a legend in the making. I cannot wait myself.
If it's as good as they say, I will be getting a GT86 and have both my dream cars.
About the specs, no specs in the brochure. There is a colour pallete and somehing about options but not much detail.
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Lauren Takumi
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 226 Location: Greater Manchester UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:05 am Post subject: Re: AE86 |
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| bakonick wrote: | my personal opinion .
this car is not goin to be any good for only one reason .
the subaru engine they are the worst engines in n/a and in turbo mode.
what they was thinkin this japs this time i dont get it .
they was havin the 3sge or use the s2000 engine .
subaru ????? |
These engines are from the ark in emmisions speak, they were never going to be anything like an option, surely you must realise that?
I think we've done well to get a revvy NA personally when everything else is turbocharged. We've all heard the sound the GT86 makes and it sounds alright to me!
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totta Crolla Bunta
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 730 Location: Oxford U.K
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:37 am Post subject: |
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The boxer engine in the GT86 sounds fantastic, oh and it just
happens to help the car achieve an extraordinarily low centre of gravity
and a low centre of gravity is what some in the know try to achieve
by lowering their cars.
Most people however seem to lower their cars just to "look cool"
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Bean Bandit Bunta
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 1410 Location: Khartoum/Sudan & Switzerland
1986 Toyota Corolla AE86 (late EU)
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong I think it's one of the best cars release in the last ten years. It's just not for me. I'm personally in the market for a 4door saloon at the moment, so my weapon of choice will be a Chaser. If I could get as many cars as I'd like I'd have one too but to be honest there's no point for me to have both an AE and a GT86.
I admit that currently the GT would probably serve me better than the AE. If I wouldn't have my AE anymore I would get a GT no questions asked. It's just I'm looking at the potential it could have had and it came close but as I say in gambling being second is the same as the first looser.
I'm simply disapointed by the fact they implemented more luxury and hence weight then initialy was planed. I'm convinced it's an awesome car to drive and will bring lots of fun to those who own one. It's just not for me.
A small car for me has to be sub 1000kg, else like I said I'll go for a Chaser which is heavy luxuriousish and did cost about the same back in the days it was released to the market. Yes fuel economy and emission are worse but this is something I personally don't care about.
Finally my position is different than many others as I never live long enough in one place (usualy 3-4 years) before I have to move on. So having many cars is not an option anymore (used to have 4). On the other hand it's just a matter of time before I am faced with the unavoidable fact my AE is getting too old to import and then I'll have to get rid of it or store it in Switzerland for when I'm there on holidays. But like I said then I'd probably switch to something bigger and if space and money allows it I might get a GT as well.
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chrisd1 Takumi
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 249 Location: Japan / Ireland
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bakonick Ryousuke
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Posts: 136 Location: Kalamata Greece
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| totta Crolla wrote: | The boxer engine in the GT86 sounds fantastic, oh and it just
happens to help the car achieve an extraordinarily low centre of gravity
and a low centre of gravity is what some in the know try to achieve
by lowering their cars.
Most people however seem to lower their cars just to "look cool" |
I dont think that the boxer givin a low centre gravity more than a inline engine if the engine is in the corect position .example take the subarus with the evos .i race with a evo ix against many subarus and i drove also subaru
evo with inline engine was 10 times better all around from subarus . the subarus was way to much understeer .if they wanted to make a car with low emisions why they dint put a new 1.6 turbo engine? like many other companys thes days .will be small light and powerfull.and the other part that i am waried the price of the car will be not cheap . i gues that will have the s2000 price .
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Aram Bunta
Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 748 Location: Nieuw-Vennep (Holland)
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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So you think you know it better than Subaru and Toyota......keep on dreaming!
Looking at your previous posts you say Subaru are the worst engines, worst in what?
Subaru is in the the top of the most reliable car manufactures in the world for years, so it can't be about that.
And from your last post I can make up that you drive Evo's, so it kinda looks to me that you are an Evo fanboy that hates Subaru because "they are the enemy".
You have given absolutely no valid reason why they are the "worst" engines.
Go troll somewhere else please.
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bakonick Ryousuke
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Posts: 136 Location: Kalamata Greece
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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becose a boxer na engine for sure it will cose problems under really hard presure in a circouit .also i want to see how you are goin to make service in your garage in the boxer , try change spark plugs etc. then talk about boxers
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Aram Bunta
Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 748 Location: Nieuw-Vennep (Holland)
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Why should it give problems, me and friends of mine have done lots of trackdays with Subaru's and they all went home driving.
The only thing that could cause problems is with the oil pickup but that is with almost every standard engine, if you want to remedy that you need a dry-sump.
Changing sparkplugs isn't easy but that is no reason for slating the engine.
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totta Crolla Bunta
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 730 Location: Oxford U.K
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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You don't get 47 WRC wins with a car that has an unreliable and difficult
to service engine
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