Webber DCOE 45mm for 200hp
05-25-2013, 04:55 PM
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The Gr.A rally 4AGE`s THEORETICALLY (Cant stress that enough) Made 193hp at the crank, and thats not a cheap engine.
We are talking TRD cams, TRD valvetrain, PERFECT porting, TRD pistons, TRD/Carillo/Mahle rods.
In other words the whole ten yards, And THEN some, if you want to play it safe with a billet crankshaft.

On a good day you`ll get around 150hp at the wheels, on a bad day it will run like crap..

Yes, theoretically the Webers will beat ITB`s, but thats provided you have a team of mechanics that constantly tune your webers for max performance..
For your kind of use, ITB`s are better because they provide more consistency, yes you might loose 5hp compared to perfectly tuned Webers.
But you know, tuning webers every day costs a crapload too..
While youre tinkering with the carbs and constantly run the borderline of lean mixture, everyone else runs at near peak, and most importantly, consistent power without lifting as much as a single finger.

ITB`s and 20v`s and all that really isnt that much wiring as you think, even an idiot like me managed to do it because I got a custom engine wiring loom, you need similar loom which you connect ito the engine, then you need an adapter for 20v-Adaptronic 420 ECU (For COP`ed & ITB`ed 16v AE92 engine its pretty much the same wiring).
With my crappy car-wiring (Someones been tinkering with it a lot) I still (With a lot of forum help because I`m a newbie) managed to get it running.

If your Webers are made in Italy, you can sell them along with the intake manifold for around 1-1,5k (Italian webers is worth around 1,5k Euros here), AE101 ITB`s with custom wiring loom and Adaptronic E420D costs about the same, and you only need to have someone tune it ONCE.

The reason they used Webers and completely tuned the engine internals with TRD this and that in the 80`s/early 90`s is IMHO because they did not have today`s ECU`s and cheaper engine parts available, today you can get almost 200HP at the crank with just a really good engine builder, AE92 engine, cams & valvetrain mods, porting, ITB`s and pistons.
Thats around 150hp at the wheels, which is A LOT

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Webber DCOE 45mm for 200hp - kpretro84 - 05-17-2013, 11:30 AM
[] - Ivan141 - 05-17-2013, 11:44 AM
[] - kpretro84 - 05-17-2013, 12:29 PM
[] - Bean - 05-17-2013, 03:08 PM
[] - einneb - 05-17-2013, 09:01 PM
[] - ditn - 05-17-2013, 09:07 PM
[] - totta Crolla - 05-17-2013, 09:57 PM
[] - robokill - 05-17-2013, 10:38 PM
200hk - rene - 05-18-2013, 12:46 AM
Re: Webber DCOE 45mm for 200hp - kpretro84 - 05-18-2013, 02:07 AM
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Re: 200hk - kpretro84 - 05-18-2013, 02:32 AM
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[] - kpretro84 - 05-18-2013, 02:46 AM
[] - ditn - 05-18-2013, 09:18 AM
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[] - einneb - 05-18-2013, 12:04 PM
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[] - kpretro84 - 05-19-2013, 01:32 AM
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[] - robokill - 05-19-2013, 01:11 PM
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