Webber DCOE 45mm for 200hp

[robokill]

ok, one thing I hate about these topics is that I hear everyone talk about 10k engines. Thats bullshit. I have seen a guy build an engine in his garage and make 193 hp. That was not an expensive engine.

If you want an engine that can keep up and make high HP there is a line somewhere (I don't think many people know it (neither do I)

But you pass that line you are comming into the really expensive zone. Again my personal 4age without ITB's was making 133hp on the wheels and beat the blacktops on the Dyno. Which means it should be making a good 160+ HP.

Now lets say I changed over the ECU gave it ITB's/injectors and different cams + lifters it should easily make another 20hp on the crank.

Now with that. An Omex 600 ECU is about 600 euro. ITB's plus adapter and injectors set you back another 600-750 and the cams I bought from catcams are always 500 euro's for a pair. Just depends what setup you get.

My headwork was 800 euro so do the math. Eventually you will hit the barrier where you need different pistons to gain more compression and change the exhaust (the first bit is pretty ok for upto 180HP from what I have read)

So if you can do most of the work yourself you can build yourself a nice engine for 4000-5000 euro and that is including a different exhaust (martellius ?)

So if you have not ever build an engine (oldeskewltoy you are not allowed to comment on this then please do not state the 10k engine blablabla

I guess the only way you are sure to get a 200HP engine is brining it to a tune shop that knows how to build it and that will probably set you back 10k. But as soon as own labor comes into the account all that data is lost.

And no body wants a Group A engine as it has no torgue/10k RPM and is bound to break.

Looking at the engine Miguel of Newera had in his AE86 that was a 9k 200 hp TechnoPro Spirits engine. But that also needed high maintenance. I rather have a lower RPM high powered engine.

Now back to this thread. If KP is going to build it himself he doesn't know how much power he will make. All he can do is make sure that he has the ingredients for a nice engine and then get it tuned at the dyno to see the result.