some mad lock angle he's got!

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: some mad lock angle he's got!

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damn!

Bunta Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 670 Location: Surrey, UK

I've seen those kind of angles before. To see it actually in motion is just amazing

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject:

How many turns would that be from lock to lock? Shocked

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:34 pm Post subject:

Naaaaa, its just broken Very Happy

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:34 am Post subject:

Thats not that much different from stock, is it?

Takumi Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 372 Location: Wroclaw PL

He probably has the steering kit from battelversion...

I will soon install mine too... well not battelversion, but Doktorversion Wink

Does the same thing, but twice as cheap Wink

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:44 am Post subject:

daytona, care to elaborate? Smile

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:01 am Post subject:

i'm with mux on this. Tell us more! Smile

And don't forget the pictures! Smile

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:39 am Post subject:

Takumi Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 372 Location: Wroclaw PL

Mux, Widar check out this topic

http://www.aeu86.org/viewtopic.php?t=2711&highlight=

they cost 45 euros. It's like the Battel Version kit 2.

To get about 8 degrees more angle, you just add some specially made washers.

To add a lot more angle, you need the second kit (45 euros) which can be seen on the first picture of the topic I have provided.

Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 3

I still have not seen anyone outside of D1 with an extreme angle as in the photo. Ken Maeda, Ueo and a few others acheive the amazing. Is the spacer the best we can do?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:49 am Post subject:

I think those D1 guys probably use different steering racks with more travel.
I've read something about the TE71 rack having more steering travel than the ae86 for example.

Ryousuke Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 163 Location: Denmark

anywhere to buy those steering angle kits?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject:

Ryousuke Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 126

Ok guys here is one way to get maximum lock... I mean, the lock in that picture is just stupid and im not sure you couldnt ever really use that much. I know for certain he spun after that cus i have the video but here is a way to get stupid lock..

Firstly, get Battle Version Spacer Kit #2. You'll find that this gives a huuuge amount of lock and unless you have really low offset wheels, the tyre will hit the chassis rail when you get near full lock.. For example my friend Jay has 14x7 0 offset wheels with 25mm spacers and it juuust about clears the chassis but has rubbed all the paint off. But using just the kit alone you'll be very happy.. But here is how to get more:

Secondly, if you couple the steering knuckles from a Power Steering AE86 with a Manual steering rack, this also gives a few more degree's lock and if you coupled this with the BV Kit #2 you will have huge problems with your wheels hitting the chassis rail. The reason this works is because the Power steering knuckles are shorter in length that Manual ones.

There is a way to get round it and thats a combination of low offset wheels and adjustable lower arms and pillow ball upper mounts. This way you can pull the top and bottom of the suspension further out and it'll give you more clearence for the wheel to turn. Ueo Style are a great adjustable bottom arm but so expensive Sad

Btw, either of those methods will work on their own and arent dependant on each other, its just thats how i believe you can get maximum lock possible on an 86. The amount you get is just silly!

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:13 am Post subject:

That's one very good post. Maybe we should make how-to or sticky?

Since I used shims on my s13 I installed them on my ae86, then Kas followed, Hrc and now dodo.
We are all very happy with this modification, no more problems with parking. Evil or Very Mad

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject:

haha...i already love the stock radius of rotation in my hachi, cause it has no CV joints in the front...LoL... Cool

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 236

can somebody explain the working principle of this modification... I understand that with a spacer added it can move the wheel more out, but what is the point if you still leave the adjusment of the toe-in out the same... you adjust the tor-in-out, and when you steer you again have the same steering ratio... I didn't quite got the whole idea... I am looking to the manual right now and still can understand... Stupid

Can somebody explain this... Confused

EDIT
Almost got it!!! Hopefully at the end of the day I will be able to explain it to myself, and later on to all of you GEEK Puh

LOL
(the speed of the steering changes (the trayectori of the wheel changes) because the tie rod has a difrent angle at the begining of it's travel)...

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:09 am Post subject:

Basically - all your doing is giving the steering rack more movement left and right.

When coupled with unchanged suspension geometry it increases angle by allowing you to turn/move the steering knuckle further than before. Which means your wheels turn further = increase tire angle/smaller turning radius.

Further gains/losses/clearances can be had by changing other items such as the lower control arms, steering knuckles and wheel offsets.

Andrew

Ryousuke Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 126

http://www.aeu86.org/viewtopic.php?t=3439&h...ight=magic+tuning

I thank you.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject:

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:27 am Post subject:

i have a power steering car with BV#2, and the steering angle is just freacking unbelivable. I love to U turn where I wasn't able to before, or just parking.

Puh

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 236

What did we forgot here? bump and rebound- steer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:23 am Post subject:

Alot of pros also 'notch' out their frame where the wheel hits it... and reweld a new piece to it about an inch further in... if you know what i'm saying?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: