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Pugho
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: Project SE82 (3S-GE powered AE82) |
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I have been wanting to do this (building a racecar out of an old corolla) for many years, but I always thouth it was for "those other guys". About a year ago I got to thinking.. Why couldn't I do this as well as anybody else? I only have one life, so why not live it now, right?
So... I'm not going to bore you with all the stories about the project that you are not interested in and I have forgotten half of. Instead I'll go right to the essentials.
Origin:
1985 Toyota corolla 1.6 DX
4A-C powered front-wheel-drive granny transporter
Engine:
2nd Generation 3SGE from a 1991 Celica GTi
Suspension:
Not really sure yet what the combination of corolla/celica parts I will use but the Celica parts will (probably) be from the generation previous to the engine donor because of the difference in availability (and price  ).
Although I am a bit curious about one of those DIY Coilover kits available on EBAY.
Brakes:
I will most certainly use a complete stock ST162 brake system.
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Mux213
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah post pics and info! Sounds like a lot of fun:)
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banpei
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Location: Hilversum
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ofcourse it can be drifted!!! Full reverse drift! 
No, we actually had a discussion about this. It would be possible to start a FWD to drift, but not sustain the drift. But that is a too long discussion to start over here... 
Show us the pics!!!!  [/list]
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Pugho
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| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:15 am Post subject: |
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(I have removed the question in the first post. One of you moderators can remove your answers if you like.)
Allrightythen I guess you want to see some pics.
This is the poor excuse for an engine that was there before:
The front and rear tranny mounts bolts almost right up to the S-53 tranny.. The front one needed to be moved a little bit to the right for the engine to point straight. The left and right mount couldn't be used at all since they weren't only in the wrong places. They were also too narrow.
So I cut them off, along with the battery plate. The battery will be moved to the trunk anyway.
Testfitted the new engine:
The right engine mount. As you can see it wouldn't have fit at all.
Really dirty tranny.. This mount needed to be moved a little bit forwards.
Begun working on the left tranny mount. Cutting that 4mm steel plate with a 3mm cutting disc on the angle grinder is hard work:
Also removed the tank because it needs to be converted to EFI..
As you all can see, there is still A LOT to be done..
Not as fun to work on it now as it was in the summer though.. Had about 7 degrees C in the garage today..
So what do you think? Should I keep posting pics? (retorical question )
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The Big Yin
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Location: Falkirk, Scotland
1984 Toyota Corolla AE86 (early JDM Trueno)
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| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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keep posting this looks interesting
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jon86Aus
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:28 am Post subject: |
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yeh look interesting keep us updated 
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apardal
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't that an AE80? The AE82 is a hatchback I guess!
Best regards
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Apolan
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1984 Toyota Corolla AE86 (early Levin)
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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are you planning on turboing the 3s? would make a killer sleeper.
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Pugho
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Apolan wrote: | | are you planning on turboing the 3s? would make a killer sleeper. |
~160hp and ~900kg will make it a sleeper anyway..
Plus, swedish laws make it impossible for me to get it legal if I turbo it.
But you never know..
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smallport4ag
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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very cool haha amagine that pulling up next to you. Keep up the good work sweet looking swap!
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Pugho
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Time for a little update.
Look ma', no stands! (Well... not under the engine anyway.)
Drilled the engine mounts yesterday and the engine could hang there by itself for the first time without stands. Unfortunately, the right mount (left in the picture) ended up about 5mm too low. Nothing a pneumatic grinder and the old welding machine couldn't fix though.
I guess the japanese thought of me when they designed this car. The power drill fit exactly in the hole for the headlight.
On the other side, on the other hand...
..I had to remove some metal..
..just to weld it back after I had finished drilling.
This is what you could make if the hole is marked on the inside of the plate and you need to drill it from the outside..
I have a webserver under my kichen table with a picture gallery.. (Sorry about the folder names being in swedish..)
http://pugho.no-ip.com/gallery/stuff/Keffo/
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Blueneon
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Location: Folkstone, Kent, UK
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Project SE82 (3S-GE powered AE82) |
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| Pugho wrote: | I have been wanting to do this (building a racecar out of an old corolla) for many years, but I always thouth it was for "those other guys". About a year ago I got to thinking.. Why couldn't I do this as well as anybody else? I only have one life, so why not live it now, right?
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This bloke has a BRILLIANT attitude! and an inspiration to us all
NOW I am thinking hard!
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Pugho
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Oh crap! I'm way behind on posting my progress in this thread..
Let's see.. This summer my parents took a 3 week vacation to the USA, so I took the opportunity to borrow their house. The corolla wasn't driveable but me and my friend towed it the 20km to my parents driveway and I got to work.
But first some pictures about what I had to do to get it towable.
The front control arms needed to be somewhat lengthened to make room for the celica's driveshafts. Not much, but some. So I made some new holes in the stock corolla arm..
Welded on some extra material and put it all together..
Cheap Camry discs in the front.
Not really necessary for towing, but anyway...
The stock lambda sensor cost too much so I got a generic one for 1/3 of the price and welded a standard M22 tread on the exhaust pipe.
Also, the fuel system needed to be upgraded, so I made a cache tank out of a piece of 3" exhaust pipe and some crap lying around the shop..
The mountings for the rear suspension arms needed to be modified for the celica stuff to fit, so I cut most of it off.
Here you can see the celica arms versus the stock corolla mountings. The celica arms are just a teeny weeny bit longer than the corolla ones.
I cut a little hole to make it easier to weld.
This is my home-made mounting bracket for the rear arms.
Welded in place...
And then I made another one just like it for the other two arms, but for some reason I have no pics of the finished thing..
After all this, the car was towed to my parents' place.
The fuel system was completed: (the transparent low pressure fuel filter sits on the return hose just so I can verify that the fuel is flowing)
Located on the other side of the floor is the fuel pump (from a ford 2.9).
The engine electronics were.. oh well.. "completed"..
And... The results:
http://pugho.teamymse.net/film/keffopremiären.avi <- this link didn't work out so well, but I think you get it..
http://pugho.teamymse.net/film/Video0007.3gp
There is still a lot to be done, but I was kicked out from the garage I was renting in october so the car is now standing outdoors by a friend's house.
But april 5:th me and my girlfriend will be moving to our own house, with a garage of MY VERY OWN.. So I guess the project will be continued just as soon as we've settled in..
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| Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ut april 5:th me and my girlfriend will be moving to our own house, with a garage of MY VERY OWN.. So I guess the project will be continued just as soon as we've settled in.. Smile |
You sir, are a lucky bastard
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banpei
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| Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. I was already wondering how it was going with the project. 
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SOARA
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:11 am Post subject: |
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don,t you made comparison of rear and front weels masses befor and after implantation?
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Pugho
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| SOARA wrote: | | don,t you made comparison of rear and front weels masses befor and after implantation? |
Hmm... I'm not sure what you mean..
I did not weigh either of the engines so I have no idea where the new center of gravity is, but I am pretty sure that moving the battery to the center of the car balanced out most of the difference.
If you are referring to the rather high ride height in the rear, then relax.. It will be lowered.
(The ST162 struts are a little bit taller than the AE82 ones.. )
btw.. I uploaded the videos to youtube, along with a couple of other videos.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pugho
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SOARA
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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probably, to insert rear celica,s arms and suspension together with a big part of celica,s body was much more easy.. It,s so hard to create the rigt geometry and castors
Sorry about my english
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Pugho
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Now I see what you mean.. and you are probably right.
If I were to do this over again, I would probably go to the junkyard and unscrew this little sucker:
from a camry touring, and weld it in place on my corolla.
Those mounts are the only ones I've had to build myself to get the celica rear end to fit.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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importent to take a part of celica,s bottom together with places were upper parts of suspension connects - like one big pice.. and rear tower bar on it
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Pugho
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Well, I'll be sure to measure all the angles as soon as possible. I don't think it is very much different from the celica specifications.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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in any case - Super Project.. the next step - small turbo.. deep inside.. nobody see it deep inside.. we are silence
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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don't get caught by the cops. This thing will be fast!
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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...we are really going to need an AE80 section soon, this is awsome 
(waits for ban....) 
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