and im off AE86 trueno, Silvertop project, but wait SR5?

Well, I bought an sr5 while I was still getting into the 86 then I started to really like it. but I didn't know the difference of the GTS and the SR5 for awhile... then I found out when I looked at the engine single cam 4AC... but I kept a positive head and bought a 20 valve silvertop for it and gonna put it in. I bought it mostly cuz I wanted it but also because I needed a new engine because the 4AC overheated and blew the head gasket then warped the head all before I could stop Sad

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but now I am starting my project of putting 20 valve into my SR5 and get it running again. but I will have to easy with it because the rear differential is not gonna hold up to the sudden boost of power for a while. but I will drive it until it dies again lol.

so here I am any suggestions? any tips that those how have done it already have for me?

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:23 am Post subject:

Heya mate,

This should give you a head start:
http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/a...project%2020V.htm

Also TE71Corolla on the board here put a silvertop in PNuts SR5 awhile back so he should be able to give you some pointers and there are probably some others around to. Its loads of work, be sure to take plenty of pictures of what you are doing and post em here and I'm sure people will help you with the next steps..

First step, empty up that engine bay, get that old lump of SR5 outtah there and start figuring out how to put the silvertop in there I'd say, but again, I've never done this so I may be missing out on a few basics:D

Also read up on that fuel stuff, You're gonne have to install a fuel pump and fuel lines that a carbed SR5 doesn't have. You may want to just source the whole lot from a GTS, then it will just be a direct fit.. I don't know if you can just add the right fuel pump to the SR5 (no idea if the mounting points and all that exist) and run the fuel lines yourself, that may be a good idea aswell because you can get a better rated fuel pump (you may need it, not sure). A fuel pump from an FC TII would be a good choice, their a dime in a dozen in the USA, I've heard its a direct replacement on the GTS pump but alot stronger as it's meant to feed a turbo'd gas gugling rotary:D

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject:

yeah, but before I can do anything I gotta get a new ECu and wiring harness for the silvertop...

I just got the engine today to find out that the company destroyed it by cutting the wiring harness. so now I have to find all the stuff and put it on the engine then make it work for the 86.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:42 am Post subject:

So I read...

Well that figures... Sad

Good luck hunting down the parts:D

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:47 am Post subject:

well dispite the news, I have continued and have taken the front whell drive transmission off the 4age. I will be selling it later.

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:54 am Post subject:

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:22 am Post subject:

well i started taking the waterpump off the old 4ac engine today and notice the guy before me changed the waterpump, but he made his own holes in the housing and the fan, which made it go off balance and break the waterpump, which drained all the fluids and blew the head gasket.

so now, until I get the silvertop working I will be running of the 4ac after I get it fixed, just hoping that I didn't warp the head when it overheated

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:03 am Post subject:

Whow, nice bodge job haha.. Good that you found the cause, lets hope the damage turns out to be minor:D

Someone out there must have a wireloom.. I would check club4ag, in the end, this board mostly has hachi owners with stock 4AGs, on club4ag there is a wider range of people who use silvertops and may have the parts you need.. (hate pointing people to other boards Very Happy

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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject:

I have tried club4ag but nobody responds to my post.

im running outta ideas....

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject:

weird... normaly there is alot of people on...

awell... guess it aint what it used to be then..

maybe ask that new guy in the asia forum, he probably can get a wire loom straight from Japan Smile

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:05 am Post subject:

alright, to keep you guys updated...

a few images...

just a front shot of my hachi
AE86 : Projects > and im off AE86 trueno Silvertop project but wait SR5

then a side shot
AE86 : Projects > and im off AE86 trueno Silvertop project but wait SR5

and some interior
AE86 : Projects > and im off AE86 trueno Silvertop project but wait SR5

and the silvertop I am gonna drop in (as soon as I find a harness...)
AE86 : Projects > and im off AE86 trueno Silvertop project but wait SR5

random parts I took outta the sr5
AE86 : Projects > and im off AE86 trueno Silvertop project but wait SR5

The head of the 4ac making sure I didn't warp it or worse... CRACK!
AE86 : Projects > and im off AE86 trueno Silvertop project but wait SR5

and I am most proud of myself for doing this!!!
AE86 : Projects > and im off AE86 trueno Silvertop project but wait SR5

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:14 am Post subject:

sweet. please keep us updated as I am very curious how this turns out. Smile

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:48 am Post subject:

Yeah! nice start Very Happy

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:38 am Post subject:

LOL! Very nice comments! Very Happy

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:08 am Post subject:

Well, I have taken the head off and bought all the new parts for it. but before anything else happens I have to replace the clutch master cylinder... but the pushrod on the new one is shorter than the old one... have to make a nwe one that will work on it. I have also taken the front drivers side fender off to do a little work on it so that it isn't so dent-ish lol. I will have pictures next time I get into the shed. prolly tommorow

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:58 am Post subject:

well... its been awhile but Im still waiting for the waterpump.

I have powerwashed the whole engine compartment.

I put it all together minus the waterpump.

I would load some pictures but I cant find the camera... will as soon as I can.

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:21 am Post subject:

Sounds like your making progress mate!
Hope she'll be driving soon!!!

DId it all work out with that clutch cylinder?

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:

well, I still need to find a metric coupling nut, or were just going to take an all thread to connect the pedal to the master cylinder

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:09 am Post subject:

just to update...

Haven't had much time to work on it..

Also I did something very stupid... I got the new waterpump but then I cracked it as soon as I put it in... the water pump has threads on it to hold on the timing belt cover but I ran the threads all the way through to the other side and it created a tension between the two bolts and cracked the pot metal..

I still haven't done anything with the clutch master cylindar yet... but I have a four day weekend from school this weekend... hopefully I'll get some time to work on it them.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:52 am Post subject:

With projects as these, if you keep waiting to "get" time, you'll probably sell an unfinished project in a year or so...Trust me, I came very near. The only way to finish it is to make time. Sometimes it seems that you need to wait on something to continue, but usually its just an excuse for avoiding work that you're uncertain of how to do. Like in your case the waterpump...those can be easily fitted and removed with the engine in the car, so no real reason to wait for one.
Invest a whole 4 day weekend and you'll make a lot of progress. The whole swap could be done in that much time, but if you can get her close to finished you'll feel a lot better.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:27 am Post subject:

Theres only 2 days in a weekend damir.. and usually thats enough time..

I've done most of my work in sunday nights so far Very Happy

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 236

keep the good will and full throttle ahead!! Nice project! Worship

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:04 am Post subject:

He mentioned the 4 day weekend LOL, not one of my inventions. I just recognise a lot of my own thinking in his messages...procrastinators-R-us. Get the thing finished asap and enjoy it..long term projects are...problematic sometimes.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:22 am Post subject:

me and a certain RX7 springs to mind

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: