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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Tokico HTS spacer? Reply with quote

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Are those kind of spacers included with Tokico HTS shocks?[/img]

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can use the ones that goes to the upper part of the strut from T3 Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spacers doesnt come with HTS. you have to custom make it your own.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes they come with the tokico HTS. Only thing is that the spacer is made for the original strut length, so if you shorten your struts you have to shorten your spacers

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJex, that depends on what you do.

The HTS cartridge is 6cm shorter then standard AE86 shock cartridge, the spacer that comes with HTS is 4cm, so if you shorten the strut by 2cm it will fit just fine.

Offcourse most people using coilover sleeves shorten the strut by 3cm or 4cm in which case the standard spacer is to big and needs to me made smaller.

I've shortened mine by 4cm and had a 2cm spacer made.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that i once saw a picture here from someones HTS set, there where also some spacers in that picture.
Well this is what i got included with my set. (front&rear)

AE86 : Technical > Tokico HTS spacer

Upper left two are for the front. The rest is for the rear. No spacers included as you can see.

Here is only the rear stuff sorted:

AE86 : Technical > Tokico HTS spacer

As you can see, i'm missing some parts.
I'm missing one of those silver disk things.
One gold nut that goes on top.
And the 2 rubbers that go on top are also different.

Only got one of these sets:
AE86 : Technical > Tokico HTS spacer

Is there more stuff that I'm missing?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bubble,

On your first picture, topleft are the things for the front struts, the big nut that holds the cartridge in place and the nut that goes way on top to hold the strut to your topmount and a tiny nut that you place to protect the adjustment thingy on top (but I've already lost those cause they didn't fit right).
No spacers though, so you are missing spacers for the front setup, but they are made easy enough (if you can't wait, go to Gamma and buy loads of big washers and just stack and tape them together).

For the rear, your second picture shows all the parts you have, I think you have more then you need so would worry. On one side you need a metal dish, then a rubber spacer, then comes your cars body, then another rubber spacer, then another metal dish, then two bolts. You add two bolts to make sure that vibrations don't make it all go loose. First screw on one and tighten, then screw on the other to lock the first.

Per side you need 2 metal dishes, 2 rubber spacers and 2 bolts. The rubber spacer you need is the one with the smaller hole. That leaves you with the rubbers with the big holes and 1 bolt left over.

The rubbers with the bigger holes look like the bushings that you need to insert in the bottom of the strut that attach to your axle. You can use the existing bolt and washer that currently hold your current strut just fine.

So all in all, I think you can install everything just fine.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Installing them wouldn't be a problem.
I was just wondering why it got all mismatched. Like SYM says that the spacers are not included, DJextor did get them and so..

If you look closely you can see that the rubber spacers that go on the rear of the car, top of the shock with the car body in between, those are different too.

Anyways, should be putting them on next week if I got time (exams Confused).

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bubble,

I don't know where you got them from.

Djex, me and Circuitfreak bought a set and got all the things nicely so..


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

o really, new HTS comes with Spacers? cuz i got mine 3 years ago and they didnt include any spacers, i have to custom make 2 solid aluminum spacers. i pretty much got everything bubble_drift is listed above on the pic.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thumbsup sweet thank you DJexor

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come to think of it.. I should have my spacers lying around somewhere still since Jamiemirror custom made some 2cm ones for me:)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SYM wrote:
Thumbsup sweet thank you DJexor


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got them from Max, as most of the others i think.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah got them through Max as well, I guess its Tokico thats a bit strange with it.

Anyways, I just checked, I still have the two 4cm spacers in my shed so if you want them... Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that would be great!
I also need a prothane bushings set. PM!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just installed my HTS112 F&R set to my hachi.

I used a pair of spacers, custom made, but identical to the originals.

The result is that my car is lower in rear, and higher in front.
I use APEX springs.

What am I doing wrong?

P.S. "Cut" is a not acceptable word to your answers Cool


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just curious how you have forced those Apex springs to work on short stroke shocks(there have to be huge preload). Cut?
If not you probably need lower spacer underneath the front shocks and biger spacer above.
Can you measure the distance between wheel centres and fender lips? Just curious how low it sits.

p.s. I have still 2sets of high quality fensport springs laying around that i cannot use with my long stroke bilsteins.
Are you interested? Smile 4kg/mm front, 3kg/mm rear


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SekiguchiUeno wrote:
I am just curious how you have forced those Apex springs to work on short stroke shocks(there have to be huge preload). Cut?
If not you probably need lower spacer underneath the front shocks and biger spacer above.
Can you measure the distance between wheel centres and fender lips? Just curious how low it sits.

p.s. I have still 2sets of high quality fensport springs laying around that i cannot use with my long stroke bilsteins.
Are you interested? Smile 4kg/mm front, 3kg/mm rear

They are not short stroke! 112 are longstroke.
The Fensports work better with HTS?
I' ll measure and I'll post pics asap.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is not in the shocks Euripides..its the spring length/rate combo that determines the height of the car. (assuming you didn't cut your cartridges).

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NoHachi wrote:
The problem is not in the shocks Euripides..its the spring length/rate combo that determines the height of the car. (assuming you didn't cut your cartridges).

No, I didn't cut my cartridges. So, the spacer is OK.
Which spirgs are the suitable ones for these shocks?
Any other solution to keep the springs for now? (May be a smaller bottom spacer bottom and another one on top?)
I'll destroy my shocks if I use the APEX?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya,

Don't worry so much! Smile

The springs are suitable for the shocks..HTS's work ok with a wide range of springrates. If the car is not to low, you won't mess up your shocks with the springs.

The spacer under the shock is there for one reason only. To ensure that the HTS has a snug fit inside the strut cartridge. If the shock can move around to much in the strut, that causes problems..but I dont think that is the case with your setup right.

If you can live with the difference in heights then there is no problem. I wouldn't lower it in the front without going to the full expense of short strokes. Just drive and enjoy what is probably a bad JDM bling photographer (TM: Alimonos) setup, but a decent one to drive.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its decent to drive yes, but I m practically sure he wants it to look ok too...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the look i care...

It's different. The normal is higher back. I don't think the steering will be the same... Confused


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