Chiro- another Croatian AE86

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject:

hey mate I hope you didn't use that head gasket! The only good head gaskets are from toyota or trd. The steel ones. If that one aint steel it will prolly breakdown soon!

Wataru Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 62

yeah, but not when your on a 0< less buddget Sad

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 240

2 robokill I agree, fully, but, as Rio said... My budget now, final with new sparkplugs, gaskets and everything else is -500€ that i owe to my girlfriend and - 100€ that I owe to Zax (new head gasket set.... ) Also, this will work, for some time... It will hold (I hope) at least for winter Wink

Fresh from the garage... We did it all. All conected, fueled, oiled and watered Smile

Have a problem on the stuff that takes the coolant from the engine to the cooler... Some housing above the thermostat... that little tube inside needs replacing so the water is leeaking...

Riza came again and helped. We couldn't fire the bastard... Obviously there is too much air in the fuel sistem... didn't read the manuals properly... It will fire up in the morning when I will be more relaxed and smarter... I am tired like a Macedonian baker... from 16h to 02h in the morning... Frozen to the bone...

Oh, and the snow has started to show... Like it is around the corner... must be faster... must get the junk working again quick...

Didn't take much pics, no time... Though, if you have glicerin, use it when dealing with old rubber parts... softens them verry much...
Probably the thing that worried me the most was the timing belt, putting it all together as it was... At the end, things that give you the hard time, realy are the smallest, most stupid things, like leekage, putting the nut on the thermostat housing (got to be a gumiflex to do it...), putting the new hose on (especialy if you do it like me and buy the one that doesn't fit Mad

) and so on...

Of to bed now... report soon, when the car fires (if not explodes or comes appart sooner...) Puh

Wataru Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 62

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:04 am Post subject:

ok but be aware not to rev your engine alot. The gasket is weak and it will wear down pretty soon. Try Ebay to find a cheap toyota oem or trd headgasket.

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 240

2 robokill- heh.... http://www.aeu86.org/viewtopic.php?p=57805#57805

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 240

Okay... an update...

For a while I have been having some problems with the car, so I opened a new topic to be sure more people see it and help...

http://www.aeu86.org/viewtopic/ae86/p/58969#58969

here is an update what and how was done...

stuff on this forum has helped me a lot, hope somebody will find a solution for his problem in my topics... Thumbsup

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 240

We were on the track saturday...

car worked out to be ok... No leakadge, no smoke, no strange noises... burned 3 pairs of back tires... woobley but nice... I am so happy!!!!

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more here:
http://www.aeu86.org/viewtopic/2007-january-20_...56k/p/59354#59354

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject:

Thats one way of testing if your car is still good Very Happy

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 240

Whell, it's been a whille, so, to continue...

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First thing, I want to show you all how big it is to have a stiff chassis, with as little torsion sway as possible....

I wanted to do this for a realy long time, and went trough every single pic of undercar reinforcement I could find... At the end, Grga and I took left over tubes from making our formula student car last year and decided to do it right...

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What we did is weld "buckets" on the strongest parts of the chassis in front and back. At the back it is the tunel that goes near the silent block (the place where the rear tie rod is attached to the car), and at the front near by the steering tod, on the tunels that go upward the firewall.... You'll get it from the pics...

We conected the buckets with a tube in front, and the same at the back.

At first it was hard to actualy take the welding pistol and actualy burn a weld on my baby... but after 10 minutes I was riding that welding machine like a mad bull, welding the buckets in every possible way! The trick was just not to burn a hole on the car body and to make sure not to weld near the fuel links so the car wouldnt blow up... Very Happy

bucket

where it will go
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bucket with bolts to screw the transversal tube
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welded at front
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done (at the back)
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test (Grga wheigts about 115kg... no sway nor cracking... not the best test, stress goes in other direction when driving, but seing this gives you a motivation, your job is worth the time and effort)
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this is how it looks when it is finished. You can see that it is non simetrical, that is because the driveshaft and the exhaust tube, we couldn't drive the tubes better... This way the exhaust still knocked on the reinforcement, but i pulled it up a bit to shut it up... Works...
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All I can say is that this is by far the most cheepest and efective way of making your car stiff! The story changed from the botom. The car rolls less than before some 50%, it is more stable, turns better, it is more responsive and easyer to drive from one drift to another... Braking has improved to... I know that this sounds like I have eaten some mad mushroms... trust me, I know what I am talking about... And it aint placebo either.

Gjuro watched me go sideways and says that the car handles better by the eye...

The thing that I am going to do next is 2 more tubes from front to back by each side so I triangulate everything even better. You can feel now that it still has some stress and bends a bit... With two more straight tubes it would be bullit proof...

Just for the record.... this is a one time job... hot parts whille welding fall into the sleewe, on the head of the person welding (in this case me), in the shose (if not Dr Martens), on the hands.... So, I look like Niki Lauda now, but at least the car is 50% more responsive... Very Happy

Next to do are the bushings, shocks, coilovers, camberplates, engine... not necessearly in that order...

Tests ran pretty good... Whent on Cro Akina, Sljeme, 3 times... boy o boy whas it fun....
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And at the end of the day i ran into Jura, driving a Hachiroku that has been in "development" for more than 3 years now...
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It is on the road... and it is how my car is suposed to look like in a year or two... kind of... sort of... I love that car... TRD bushings and LSD, KONIi, cusco roll cage, ITB..... Gjuro came later and said the same... Hope to make my car EVO2 of that Hachi... in white... Very Happy

That is all for now... Summer is around the corner... I'll do some work and some pics and keep this thread alive... just... Wink

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:43 am Post subject:

Wow that is some nice report after a long time.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:49 am Post subject:

Nice mod. Never saw any stiffening like this. Smile

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject:

Looks like it might actually work, although it would not be something I would do to my own car.

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 240

it does actualy work. This way the car is defined in three planes (roof, floor and the reinforcement... ) which is certainly better than 2 Wink

The down side is that you have to make it in a way not to mess up the car clerance... Roll cage is better but much work, and if you don't have a good machine to bend the tubes not changing the cross profile, it is better not to do it at all...

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject:

Nice modification Mrgud. Do you have problems with car height on road, or maybe in future becouse nice roads i Croatia.

Takumi Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 222 Location: Zg, CRO

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject:

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2 Kas- sorry m8, it's been a while since my last visit... The lowest is the exhaust, so this is pretty good... And the nices thing is, when I go of the curb I don't worry about any bodywork being smashed, its always the steel tubing that grinds on the curb Very Happy

Just kidding... It's fine, no problm at all...

Today we practiced some 180 and 360 turns, e- brake drift start and steering handeling...

Wink

woah was this fun!!!

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movies...

(sorry about the rude narrator, he complained of not having enough memory... Wink

)

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject:

Pretty good with those handbrake turns I see..

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 240

beginer dorifto traning... e-brake... it was so slippy and narrow that I didn't want to do something more complicated with more speed... and smash that Merc or crash into the kerb...

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:57 am Post subject:

or chop one of your buddies Very Happy

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:28 am Post subject:

Nice turns! Thumbsup

Were you the only one, or did the Benz practice as well? Puh

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 240

jep, I took the Benz for a spin.... RATATATATATATATA diesel engine... Very Happy

Nice, for a grandpa

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject:

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 240

The rally was held!!!

We, people of www.go-drift.com have come to the make the day Very Happy

It was similar to autocross, only with some reverse driving and stoping between pilons.... We were driving more for show...

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