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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: aftermarket exhaust Reply with quote

Hi guys,
I have to buy new exhaust.
I consider:
- Kakimoto N1 (from Speed industries)
- Greddy Extreme 2 (from Speed industries)
- Greddy Ti-C (from US). says its for us bumper Neutral
- Apexi Hybrid Megaphone Evo (from Pass)

I expect sporty but not extremely loud exhaust since I like engine (ITB) sound more.
Does anybody have experience with some?
Thx


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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your car is mega low go for the first 2 as they go over axle, i would go for Kakimoto they are usually not too noisy.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah,
so Apexi and Greddy Extreme 2 are above rear axle, if I understand well.
As for Apexi, I didnt get reply from pass about shipping yet
I also likr Kakimoto a lot even under axle, but the cost Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheap

OBX Catback Exhaust for 85-87 Toyota Corolla AE86 GT-S

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I know.
How about quality comparing to japanese producers?
Ive heart about problems with OBX manifold.


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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about fujitsubo?

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fujitsubo is great I guess, over axle also. But too expensive Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter, get the OBX catback (not the manifold... yet), and then you can tell us how it fits Wink

It's over the rear axle, and stainless, looks ok. May be a bit loud since the canister is small.

I'm thinking of that solution + a high flow catalyst (for instance from http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/toyota_corner.html#corolla .... they also sell the Megan catback, but it's under the rear axle I think), and maybe get some headers / manifold later.


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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, OBX looks fine also. Its over axle and lowest price (not so big risk then). But Greddy is also not overly expensive and japanese Smile . The high flow catalist looks nice to me Wave Nice idea. Thx

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Kakimoto N1 falls apart from what Ive seen,

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Realy? Ive always considered Kakimoto and Fujitsubo as best.

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i recomend the OBX system.. works nice for me.. but if u have money for lower engine pillows buy it to. nice sound to Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the OBX system, nice quality,nice price, nice sound (a bit loud tho...) but shit fitment. But works nice for me too Thumbsup

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Kakimoto looks the job but Ive seen alot of them on Jap imports & they usually are worst for wear

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rossi wrote:
If your car is mega low go for the first 2 as they go over axle, i would go for Kakimoto they are usually not too noisy.


Somehow I was thinking, that exhausts which goes over axle are more suitable for cars with stock height (not lowered) because space between body and axle decrese with lowering Confused

I was thinking about Megan Racing Toyota AE86 Drift-Spec Exhaust for our track car, but now I am confused.

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Im confused.
Which is correct for lowered car? Under or over axle?


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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gt99 wrote:

Somehow I was thinking, that exhausts which goes over axle are more suitable for cars with stock height (not lowered) because space between body and axle decrese with lowering Confused


Exactly! Thats the truth! If you mount an underdiff exhaust under a stock height car you will get problems when you jack up your car and indeed if you lower youre car alot you will not have enough room voor an overdiff.


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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's easy to get confused with these cars with "live" rear axles. But think of it like this; you get to choose which of 3 places to bang your exhaust!

Either
1) squeeze your over-axle exhaust between the chassis and axle in every bump if your car is seriously lowered, or
2) have the axle hit your under-axle exhaust from above every time the load is off the suspension, for instance jacking the car up, or
3) have your under-axle exhaust so low that it scrapes the ground on every road surface other than a racetrack Wink


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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my car with coilovers and hks hi-power (over axle) donīt hit anything, but it was hard to fit (length issues)


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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK so it seems clear as for layout.
But do I have to also consider future engine mods, like high profile cams, ITbs... ?


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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for your car with long stroke suspension is over axle the only option, if you jump or jack your car the exhaust hit the axle or raise the fixing points.
Still if you have lowered car its enough space over axle. Dont forget the axle has mounting points and diff housing and exhaust sits between them.
Well underdiff can make more power but how much 0,000% ?
for road use you better get bigger capacity muffler in the back as the apexi.The power gain with tube type muffler is minimal and loudness maximal Smile if you want that obx is good enough.
Btw. how much wants for it pass? it looks interesting.
and for the future mods the headers are significant more.

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my vote it's for Apexi Hybrid Megaphone Evo Cheerleader your money!!
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underdiff scrapes alot on a lowered car, speedbumps are a no no, plenty of room over diff unless you are running very soft springs causing axle movement
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Stano,
nice to hear you again! Thanks for explanation.
I just found Apexi on Pass webpage but I didnt get reply from about it yet. Im also not sure that it is full stainless steel.

How about GP Sports EXAS. Not so expensive.
Blitz Realize TT-R is also an option.


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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about a revolver single tip titanium, its lighter and sounds like fujitsubo legalis r but its only a little cheaper.


i have a apexi megaphone from PASS and loven' it

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