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Apolan
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

other than a wierd shape of the car, sounds like exactly what an ae85 would look if released today.an ae86 succesor would be abit spiced up (keeping 1000kgs, cca 160-200 hp 1.6-2.0 engine, LSD). I hope they actually do decide to put such car into works..

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gt99 wrote:
http://www.7tune.com/?p=63


I dont like it! Sad

I may have rwd and light weight but it doesnt look like the old one! Everything is so "round" and not boxy like on the original. For me boxy 70-80s cars are the coolest cars. Old Volvos and the E30 BMW for example... ...and of course old toyotas! Puh

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesnt look too bad, but I bet it looks rubbish in Panda. Puh

The price is very resonable but I still wont sell my AE86

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats cool but im pretty sure they aint gona treat us to a couple of new coupes haha

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheap, reasonable power/emissions/fuel consumptions, RWD, usefull hatch, 1000kg AND its cheap? Sounds like the automotive holy grail to me. Almost too good to be true.

If they do build it, I think it'll be a car to own next to your hachi..Imagine having the option of having one as a company car instead of a VW or Seat!

As for the looks...times have moved on people! To me it looks great, certainly not ugly enough to put me of an eventual purchase (think BMW 1 series...the horror!).


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will add.... there are nearly a dozen major AE86 forum sites around the world. "Our" influence might be stronger than we think....

As I see it the keys to its revival...
is Toyota listening?
If they are listening, does it make sense to them?
Can they build a car essentially the same as the AE86, yet doing a better job then the recently introduced FJ
Will Toyota make any $$?
will it improve their reputation?


As I see it... it would almost have to be a 3SG powered vehicle. I see a shortened(about 100mm from the middle - between the axle lines) SXE10 chassis used. Both of these keep costs down, and are proven together already. Additional keys to its success... basic trim levels... remember the AE86 is an econo car first... simple in its fit. Toyota saves weight and tooling costs by keep things simple. Airbags, and safety would be required, but air bag technology isn't new... costs are known and can be economical if desired. Again since the SXE10 was already fitted with airbags, they can be redesigned or made a bit simpler to lower safety costs.

Problems as I see them.... (Noise)Would they ever make a hatch again? or is it a coupe? Headlamps... pop ups are no longer legal in some areas... would the Levin look be ok?? (remember worldwide) I'm sure there are other +s and -s....


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will not hurt if Toyota people have lunch with someone from Lotus also Puh
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamiemirror wrote:
It will not hurt if Toyota people have lunch with someone from Lotus also Puh


... especially with suspension engineers Worship

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We know that Lotus already use 2ZZ-GE engine - maybe Toyota can show us something like Opel Speedstar (cheap Lotus engineering) in AE86 "dress" ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some new photos



http://www.7tune.com/?p=75

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bit different than before, but the rims are still HUGE!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give it Up,
A new 86 will be shite, & more importantly none of use will be able to afford it Puh
Airbags, abs, 19" Rims, traction Control, leather Interior, & "Other People" will have them, which will make us all sad bastards, or else we all get sales reps jobs & get free new ones.
Id rather have my 1st one back that buy a new one,
Please no more talk of the New Hachi Roku


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh looks like Audi A3 + ugly rear lights Blonde question
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The JDM Altezza RS200 Z-Edition was supposed to use some of the glory of the AE86, but it never succeeded.

I've a friend who is one of Toyota's designers here in Tokyo. He says there are no plans to make any sports cars, aside from perhaps the Supra. There's just not any thought towards sports cars or sports coupes in the walls of the marketting offices.

Besides, which - even if in the future another Corolla were made, it would have to carry heavy safety equipment, etc. No way there will ever be anything quite like the AE86 made again. Look after your AE86's well! Thumbsup


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, minutes ago, I was in the toilet doin some sh*t and thought in catch up some reading. Picked up the newest (17 aug) auto magazine in the bathroom and turned the 1st page. I must mention that i already have read that magazine (I thought), but as allways, I pick a auto magazine, you known, take a look at some new cars, view the market, reviews, bla bla.

On the second page I found this:

Iīll try to translate

"Toyota with new AE86?

Acording to the japanese newspaper Asahi, Toyota is working together with Fuji Heavy Industries, owner of Subaru, on a new low cost sports compact. This sports conpact would be designed along the lines of the old missed Corolla Gt Twincam AE86, and would be powered by a boxer engine suplied by Subaru. This setup is justified by the low center of gravity and working smoothness witch will tranfer its power to the rear wheels. This sports compact will arrive before the end of the decade."

Just news...

Dont know if i believe it or not. Certainly I wouldnt buy one, but if it adds some value to mine old one, than WELCOME![/i]


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toyota is working together with Subaru, that's for sure.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2ZZ, 3SG, EJ... All are better options than the NZ engine in my opinion. If the car is given an engine with good potential, the aftermarket support would have a field day!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't I read somewhere that Toyota en Subaru were develloping a sportscar for young people? And that is was to be powered by a scoobie boxer-engine?

I still think a 1.3 is more likely. Emissions profile of the whole range etc etc


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On club4ag a guy mentioned that HE heard from a dealer that the car is going to be powered by a Yaris engine..,

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like an Audi TT from the rear in those new pics.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.carupdate.com.au/2125/toyota-ae86-%e...%99-to-be-reborn/
http://www.importjap.com/blog/2007/09/28/confir...an-just-a-rumour/


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, Toyota has already launched the sucessor of the hachi...



Even Orido and Tsuchiya say the Altezza "feels" like an updated version of the 86. Probably my next car Cool


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably the japanse RS200 version... The IS200 wasnt a pleasure to drive said my dad.

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