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86drift Wataru
Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Oregon [US]
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: Best drifting struts |
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My trueno's suspension is shot to hell, with the front struts riding dry (stock oil struts, the oil all leaked out). I'm shopping around for a new pair and I'm curious as to what types are preferred for drifting. I hear koni yellows are really good, but I'm leaning a bit toward kyb gr-2s for now, since I don't have hardly any money. Tokico blues are another type I'm considering, but I don't know the differences and stuff. Also where should I buy them? (I'm in USA, if that changes anything)
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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NoHachi Moderator
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 1998 Location: Delft - The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: |
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You might consider KYB AGX's too, sportier then blues or Gp2, but cheaper then koni. I liked the blues on my brothers AE86 alot, but probably not the best for drifting. Also try and buy the fronts and rears as a set. Replacing just the fronts will result in an unbalanced car and probably understeer.
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86drift Wataru
Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Oregon [US]
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Ok, thanks for the help. I'll take your advice on getting both front and rear at the same time. Do I need to get the same brand/set for front and back or does that matter? I have regular shocks in back instead of struts if that changes anything.
Where can I find AGX's for an ae86? I looked around a bit but didn't have any luck. 
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Mux213 Site Admin
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 7229 Location: Australie
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Also don't forget about Tokico HTS. Would also be cheaper for you then getting KONI Yellow over there in the states.
ps.. is this a tech question or drift topic... hmmm.. need to think about this, might yet deside to move this to tech 
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NoHachi Moderator
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 1998 Location: Delft - The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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HTS is nice too, but well over double the price of the other setups (excl.koni)
AGX can be found in many places. Typing ae86 AGX into google resulted in many hits, check them out. I'm sure you'll find multiple vendors stocking them. They are not AE86 items though.. You need either AE92fronts or AW11 rears for the front and Camaro/ Mustang/Fiat argenta rears
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Mux213 Site Admin
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 7229 Location: Australie
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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NoHachi,
True, but I've also read in many places that the adjustable AGX's are cheaper because their durability is lower. Though offcourse its hard to tell whether these are rumours or true..
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PazzaAE86 Ryousuke
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 126
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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All those ones you listed are pretty poor, IMHO.
TRD make the best struts followed very closely by HTS. If you want to buy a strut that will last and be suitable for you no matter what level of drifting you aspire to do, the TRD or HTS are the only option.
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NoHachi Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Jup, but neither of those are really suited for someone who has almost no money.
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kid Ryousuke
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Greddy type s !!!! 
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robokill Bunta
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 2147 Location: Amsterdam // The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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not to spoil the fun.... but if i check ZAX he did everything on koni's and he can drift..... so i think it totally depends on what you want.
And to answer the question what the difrence is:
oil shocks will live longer and are restorable but less good in rebound because there is less "pressure"
While gas shocks are under pressure so rebound is very good but they don't last 10-20 years like koni's do. (koni's come with lifetime warranty)
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Jan Pedersen Moderator
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 1144 Location: Herning, Denmark
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: |
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You can easily use Konis, but they are too exspensive compared to TRD. Imo you would have to get the Konis revalved to make them work properbly. TRD or HTS just work.
I don't know the price on Konis where you are, but in Denmark they are €650...
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AE86_Z Wataru
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 56 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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I have a pair front adjustable Yellow AE86 Koni for sale, because of TRD short stroke conversion.
Cheap price...
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86drift Wataru
Joined: 07 Jun 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Oregon [US]
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the help, guys, I really appreciate it. I just got in a fender bender with another car so my funds went from low to no, and I ended up ordering the KYB gr2s for $180 for the whole set. I'll be upgrading within a year or two though, and I'll keep in mind what was recommended. Thanks again 
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