Drifting with stock power on the dry

Ryousuke Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 184

HI!

I was a bit "drifting" today, now with the kaaz 2 way lsd i got much more grip on the dry, i have 195 tyres on 15 inch wheels with koni suspension on the car. its very tricky to get the hachi roku sideways, i am not using e-brake technique i dont like that....

Sad

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject:

use shittier tires, more revs and increase pressure in the reartires to ~40psi or more Smile

one or all of the above should do the trick Wink

Ryousuke Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 184

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4idoFNGxOg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44r4Sj8zLyo

This are some first tryouts with the ae, it was on a cold day, so the tyres didn´t grip much, i know not much angle but good speed i think Very Happy

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject:

I had the same probelm in the beginning, and also thought that i had to much grip,but its simple becource you are going to slow!,

And that is not my trying to say anything about your driving,
But that was the same with me,

With the hachi, you need to go fast ,at the entry,
it´s alot easy´er when you get more power,then you can drift at a lower speed,
but it´s also much more fun to do it faster, becourse there is not much power over drift anyway,
So drift from the entry of the corner Thumbsup

/Skassa

Ryousuke Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 184

I come to this corner in third gear, maybe 100-110km/h then i brake late, still in third gear, steer in and shift down to second without toe and heel, then the rear brakes out...

Ryousuke Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 149

get the Camber done Ash... we talked about it already... you will be having more fun... especially with the KAAZ pusching so much your front end needs to have more grip!!! Cheerleader

Ryousuke Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 184

yeah bro i know, my front tyres smoke more then my rear ones do Very Happy

Ryousuke Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 149

it should be the other way around!!! or are you driving a AUDI? Puh

no for real... camberplates... about 1.8 of camber and your Konis set to 3/4 front and 3,5/4 rear... you will have nice balance and no more understeer!! I had the same Setup with the Kaaz 2 way before... that was a nice setup...

now I will run Greddy Type S + Cusco RS LSD... I think i will feel the difference!!! Thumbsup

Ryousuke Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 184

why did you change your lsd?

Ryousuke Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 149

the Kaaz didn't make the effect I wanted... the Cusco RS works with lower torghe because of the spring layout... the Kaaz works with the disc layout... Kaaz is good... but Cusco RS is the something else Puh

Takumi Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 234

hehe, that is why I use 13'' wheels (because I don't have any but those Smile

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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject:

Just out of interest,

Does any of you guys remember this guy called Zax that sometimes posts on this forum?

8Kg front, 6Kg rear springs, shortstroke KONI shocks, a modified double rear strut bar and a dying 4AG in the front.

Stock LSD

Stock engine, if it was still doing 110Hp it would have been a miracle

Sideways 24x7 at Mobikrog, snow, ice, dry, wet, it didn't matter. www.go-drift.com

Damn I miss that white hachi of his....

Ryousuke Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 184

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPxwJoKIuR0

i am really too slow,... Sad

Ryousuke Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 149

just looked at your video.. nice job..

but i see that your car is a little bit soft.. in German: Schwammig....

maybee some Buschings and a Tanabe Stabilizer set yould do good work...

With the camber you could get it drifting befor the turn starts.. so it wouldn't
be a power over drift...

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject:

nice drifting! Worship

Ryousuke Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 184

bushing kit will come this winter, stabilizer from whiteline i think will do their job well Very Happy

Ryousuke Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 149

not shure about the whiteline stabilizers... Studebaker from München has them and he is not satisfide... He even thought the OEM ones were better... but maybe he has a different driving style then you do... Thumbsup

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:58 am Post subject:

ash hearing the revs in your car you are not near 6600 ? Drifting a stock hachi mostly takes it upto 7000 rpm and alot trying. But first I would recommend a difrent learning spot. This corner is pretty long and your speed at entry must be much higher.

Its not safe to learn drifting on these long corners. Try a parkinglot or a small corner. Start in first gear 90 degree turn before you try these long ones. You might hurt yourselve

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:40 am Post subject:

Ash,

Watch this vid: http://www.go-drift.com/video/go-drift.com_9V.wmv

Skip the first minute or so, thats just parking lot fun, the real stuff starts after that. Smile

there is also a topic somewhere from HRC with a vid of him on this same track, also with a near stock hachi with only upgraded suspension.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject:

Seems like his throttle is stuck in the open position Smile

Ryousuke Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 184

Oh boy, he´s revving that engine like hell, but i like it Very Happy

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject:

Ryousuke Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 184

how long will this engine last? Smile

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject:

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject:

if u wanna drift, get 6kgrear springs, set dampers to full hard, weld another swaybar on.... then go have some fun