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Onyx Ryousuke
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 162 Location: Brussels-B or Hradec Kralove-CZ
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: Cheap spring sets - advice |
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Hi all,
guys, can you please tell me, which to choose (from these two) as a stage 1 setup?
1) Apex
2) VMaxx
Koni shocks are ordered and I would like to put it in asap.
If you have any other option easy to buy in EU, please let me know (price of both is around 150E for complete set). Thanks for your advice.
O.
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Ivan141 Moderator
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 4682 Location: Netherlands Z-H
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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You'll also find "Cobra"springs on ebay.de for less than the above mentioned springsets.
They are not very great on stock shocks, but I think they work well enough combined with the yellow koni's. The Apex springs are pretty much okay too.. dont expect too much of the springrates on any of these sets though.
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alimonos Bunta
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 2387 Location: HPEIROS - GREECE
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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yellow Konis' part numbers ????? the short ones ????
r they bolt on for AE86 ?
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Ivan141 Moderator
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 4682 Location: Netherlands Z-H
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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relax alimonos.. he never said they where short. But the ae92 ones work as shortstrokes..
Just be very sure that you really want shorter struts.. the turbo trueno has them, and it is really too low to drive around on the streets imho.
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alimonos Bunta
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 2387 Location: HPEIROS - GREECE
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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i meant the AE92 ones Ivan !
Do you have the part numbers for them ? how much there ?
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Ivan141 Moderator
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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dunno how much..but you canfind the partnr's in the koni catalog on www.koni.com
They where for sale @ 92 euro's per pair for a while, but they stopped selling them on ebay and Mux had some mixed experiences with their sales department (sent him the wrong shocks, but that might have been a miscommunication).
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alimonos Bunta
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 2387 Location: HPEIROS - GREECE
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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92 euros per pair ????????????
r we talking about the Yellow adjustable Konis for the AE92 ?
Here are much more expensive ...
I 've found the AE86 ones 150euros for EACH one !!! 
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Ivan141 Moderator
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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my memory is a dreadfully battered thing.. dont trust it too much..but they where very cheap.
But let's stop cluttering this thread, back on topic about cheap springs please:
I have them, will work fine combined with some koni shocks to stiffen things up a little more. They where totally crap combined with lesser shocks though..
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SekiguchiUeno Takumi
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 467 Location: Czechoslovakia/Germany
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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another option is ventura springs, they are distributed with bilstein shocks in sets, also available for ae86. had anyone experiences whit it?
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jamiemirror Bunta
Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 1794 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | 92 euro's per pair |
The normal price is more like 90EU/each.
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NoHachi Moderator
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 1998 Location: Delft - The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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It was some old stock being sold off..they were indeed 92 a pair for the fronts..ae92 short stroke ones.
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alimonos Bunta
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 2387 Location: HPEIROS - GREECE
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Onyx Ryousuke
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 162 Location: Brussels-B or Hradec Kralove-CZ
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Just to make it closed:
Thanks Ivan.
I just ordered Apex springs today. I don`t expect anything special. I just want to start with stage one to see, how it will react/work. The stock suspension is horrible.
Later on I will have to do something with that rear axle, because it is really bad .
O.
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NoHachi Moderator
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 1998 Location: Delft - The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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It'll be a lot better then stock, but also a lot less comfortable and slower at high speeds on irregular asfalt (car gets unsettled by ridges etc). Lots of fun around town though.
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Mux213 Site Admin
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 7197 Location: Australie
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Onyx,
I had the apex springs on my hach for awhile together with konis. Pretty decent for roadwork and a little bit of track, but not enough for serious track work or serious drifting. Alot better then stock though so I think you'll like them.
I'll keep my opinion and experience of the 92 euro AE92 shocks for myself, lets say that my experience with that ebay seller were less then good...
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NoHachi Moderator
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 1998 Location: Delft - The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:27 am Post subject: |
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I think things went wrong when we wanted several sets..They were probably letting one set they had left go for cheap. Just win the auction and everything is plain and simple. Ask difficult questions and you see what happens...morons
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Mux213 Site Admin
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 7197 Location: Australie
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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NoHachi,
I think so too.. I also think the ebay guy isn't directly involved with the sales department of the company or something like that, atleast I understood something like that from Alex. They're probably doing the ebay thing indirectly as a publicity thing, just letting old stock go cheaply "off the books" this way or something... But Im just guessing here.
Since we started ordering multiple sets we went through the "normal" channels.. Still that doesn't explain that they totally f'ed up. If you ask for multiple sets and refer to the ebay add and ask for pricing info, and get send something totally different for a totally different price without ever being told a price, that is simply very very very wrong. I'm still so releaved it was all undone and clearedup.
The right way would have been for them to tell us what the price was, I would then have asked why I would have to pay such a higher price compared to the ebay price, they would have told me the ebay price was a once off, I would have ordered one set through ebay, thats the end of it, no harm done.
They f'ed up, simple as that. So they could f up your ebay order aswell, simple as that too. Only good thing is that ebay protects you better which is why they only sell to german folk.
Anyways, going way to off topic, this has been discussed before on and off the board.
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SutteR Takumi
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 394 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Although it's offtopic, you could write the name of the seller here or link him here to protect others from the mistakes with him...
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