Ian.G's Track/Drift Levin.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject: Ian.G's Track/Drift Levin.

I figured it was about time I created a proper project thread for my car instead of just using the 'new bits for hachi thread'.

Now seems like a good time as I destroyed my engine yesterday at dono.

As the front of the car gets stripped down I'll post pictures. I have built an entire car in the past but I have never done any serious taking to bits of engines (the only internal work I did on an engine was fitting a modified oil pickup in the bottom of a hayabusa engine prior to fitting a dry sump).

This will be a challenge and big learning exercise for me.

Wish me luck and watch this space.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject:

I say thet you move the "new bits for Hachi" to the Project session and keep on going from there. Thats what i'd do.

And as i said, get yourself a gZe.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject:

Ian.G

If you still have Jameys contact details it might b worth talking to him, he certainly knows how to make the engine work at its best

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:03 am Post subject:

Auch... What exactly happened to your hachi? You said you had engine rattle... Neutral

I've added a link to your old "new bits for hachi" thread in your startpost. Wink

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject:

We don't know what happened yet banpei,

I was going down the back straight at donington in 4th and there was a nasty noise so I backed off and coasted into the pits. The oil was pretty much empty (even though I checked it in the morning). There is no black smoke, no oil contamination in the water header, the sump plug is still in so we dont know where it went - burnt I suspect.

The rattles come beyond 2,500rpm.

I am in the process of stripping down the car now in the evenings after work. I am going to start the engine for the last time tonight when two of my buddies show up so we can take a listen.

It sounds like the bottom end to me - probably spun bearings. If its the top of the engine (which I doubt) then I may as well bin it LOL.

I am not making any sudden choices until I know what is actually broken.

But there are a few plans in the pipeline of how to recover from this. I miss the car already so we need to fix it pretty quick sharp.

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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject:

nmwisima - I want to stay NA for the time being - I know its less power but I think it just suits the car better. Maybe in the future I will build another engine - but for now it has to be another ITB'd screamer

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject:

Ah..build a K20. reliable 250bhp with just bolt ons.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject:

Have you ever drive a gZe powered AE86??

Cause recently I was in the passenger seat of a 20V AE86 and yes, it might suit better the character of the car, but the difference is HUGE. gZe is so much better...

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:05 am Post subject: The Strip down begins...

Well - myself and a friend spent a little time last night stripping down the engine so that we can remove it from the car. Only a few photos as there is notthing really to look at.

2 more people have heard the engine running now and they think its a big end 2 - so out comes the engine.

Found a few interesting things of note so far...

My bumper bar brackets are a joke (see below) - anyone have any proper ones about ?

The #1 injector (at the front of the engine) has a broken clip and its harness was held on with a zip tie LOL. Looks like the O-ring seals are knackered as fuel residue on the outside of the rail (yikes - explains the bad smell of fuel LOL). Maybe a good time to get the injectors checked and new o-rings.

Wiring loom is MASSIVE - my auto electrician friend is prepared to build up a new lightweight loom for me - in fact he alread builds and supplies lightweight mk2 escort looms to a lot of the historic rally guys in the UK.

So tonight I will hopefully have the inlet and exhaust sides of the engine stripped. I have to remove all the power steering pipework and totally remove the entire air-con system (this is staying off the car and will be for sale is its in good condition)

Its fun - but everything is so dirty compared to working on my westfields. Hopefully I will get a chance to clean things up as we put it back together.

A dilema I have now is - should I empty the engine bay and spray it ?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:34 am Post subject:

Hi Ian, you bumper brackets do look to be a bit cut down, but they are not very big normally. I considered putting in a cross piece to help protect the radiator in low speed bumps, its very vunerable.

I'm still talking with the guy at jblood, they make fibreglass brackets and i'm hoping to be able to offer them soon, but maybe not soon enough for you.

The engine does tend to kill a big end especially if the oil supply weakens, i've killed one myself in the past.

O rings from Toyota, its easy to pinch one as you put them in.

If you want a new looking engine bay, nows the time to do it, especially if you like making work for yourself.

Custom lightweight wiring, do you want to sponsor me Wink

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject:

Ha,

I dont think the loom will be happening any time soon.
Engine bay tart up is not a priority so I may actually just give it a good clean when the engine is out. There are bits that need painting to stop them from rotting like the battery tray and stuff - but they can be done quickly.

As for the front bumper bracket (or more importantly the cross member that WAS welded on) we will have to make a new one when it goes back together.

The bumper bar is now off the car for a fair while I imagine - so I may speak with jamie. I dont want to spend money on a copy right now though as I may need save some for other things depending on what else is broken in the engine.

I think I just have to be really careful I dont decide to do too many other jobs just because the engine bay is empty - otherwise it will be off the road for a long long time.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject:

damn Ian! like you said on MSN your car is a beauty on the outside but a mess inside.

Cheer up mate now you can fix it!

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject:

Damn ian,

Some tough luck, hope you get her back together again fast.. Dont rush it though, better to have the car off the road for a couple of extra days, then to have it up and running in notime only to see it brake again....

Ryousuke Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 131 Location: Lisboa

Best luck with the rebuild, keep us posted Smile

Btw, just out of curiosity, whats the engine kms?? Thanks

João Paulo

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject:

Odo says 210,000kms. We'll see how the engine is but it was upgraded more recently that that reading.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:50 am Post subject:

Bit more work on the car the last few days. I am tired as hell from too much stress at work at the moment so this is going quite slowly.

Last night I only spent a short time on the car - and that was removing the exhaust manifold and bit of front pipe where the cat should go.

Tonight the alternator and its bracket came off - along with the inlet side of the engine. Few useful things found out

1. We have a large port head.
2. Difficult to say if any porting on the inlet side has taken place as I cant get the camera in close. Adapter plate was a proper swine to get off but its free now.

3. Now you can clearly see how the vacuum can has been done.

4. You can also see on the ITBs that the original vacuum outlets are not being used. 4 larger vacuum ports have been placed into the adapter plate - these are not especially cleanly done inside the ports on the plate itself but I guess it does the trick. Anyone hazard a guess as to why this would be done ?

5. And just for Zax - here is how the regular throttle position sensor is used in conjunction with the the throttle bodies. The shaft that moves the butterly on the outside of the body just connects straight on. When we put this back together I will check that all the butterflys are calibrated.

So there we are. Next few jobs are to remove the water lines that run to the blower, the power steering pump and the aircon pump. After this the engine can come out. I'm not sure if I should leave the gearbox on or split them ?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:43 am Post subject:

hmmz i have to say the tps setup looks neat!

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:46 am Post subject:

Ian, could you please post some detailed pics of the master cilinder stopper? (cusco I presume?). It looks a bit more complicated than most others I have seen...

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:41 am Post subject:

Will get a piccy for your Ivan,

As far as I know its a Cusco item - would be very very easy to copy. I intend to make another small bracket that sits on the top of this one to hold an external fuel pressure regulator.

I will also post up a picture of the fuel rail today - it would be good if somebody could help me identify which injectors I have.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:17 am Post subject:

Yeah I was thinking of mirroring a cusco stopper and maybe try to get them made some time.. It looks so much more solid than the available alternatives for LHD cars. It looks as if it's made from bent steel sheet (heavy gauge) and then with some reinforcement welded to it..but what does the bolt above the MBC do? Usually there's one on the end of the stopper to adjust it against the master cilinder..

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject:

Bit more work today - nothing too serious though as I am still tired from a busy week.

I've now removed the aircon from the engine bay (there is still all the stuff behind the dashboard to come out yet though). Its all in really good condition (if a little dirty) and is for sale along with the aircon panel from the centre console if anyone wants it.

Also removed the viscous fan from the end of the water pump. This is not going back on the car as I hope to run an electric fan system when the car goes back together.

There is a picture of the exhaust manifold too - this is 4-1 item from Trust/Greddy. Each runner looks a fairly even length which is good and the collector welding is all very tidy too

One of the things I dont seem to be able to do right now is remove the fuel line from the fuel filter. This is a banjo bolt but no mater how hard I try it won't come undone. Any tips ?

Thats all for today - getting ready for an adults firework party (read drunken adults with fireworks). Just think - this time last year I was out trying to take nice long exposure photos of fireworks going off above my car - maybe next year.