Irish spec Charmant

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: Irish spec Charmant

Banpei will love this.... Wink

So I had this Original old Irish Daihatsu Charmant;

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It got me these awesome girls....

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But that wasnt enough, I needed other kinds of fun in it,

So first things first I welded the diff and put trd blue rear struts in it and started breaking halfshafts.....

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So I replaced the halfshafts and bought a 5k engine that I planned to beef up a bit and pop in,
Seemed like a good idea and quite in keeping with an original car,
But my friend made me an offer I couldnt refuse.....

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Yep thats right, Banpei's old car.... she got rolled and 'repaired'

Now all the stuff from that car, including alot of stuff added on since, is going in to the Charmant,

I got the suspension and brakes done this week,

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She sits a little lower than standard now.....

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Back needs to go lower....

Badly need ncrca's if anyone has any,

Wheel bearings, adjustable panhard rod and we'll see what else tomorrow.

Major plans are full 4ag, hydraulic t series box, t series axle with Cusco 2way diff and 4.7cwp.

Will post up progress as I make it,
Hope everyone likes what Im doing, all feedback and suggestions welcome,
Cheers,
Jack (mouwt) Thumbsup

Wataru Joined: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 75 Location: ireland

sweet jack, this will be proper old school dori dori, Thumbsup

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject:

Dont tell the guys! HAHA

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject:

I love it! Puh

Great to see the car being used for a good purpose! Thumbsup

That's about the same plan as I have for my TA60. Wink

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject:

Haha I thought you would like it!

Wanna buy the shell back..............

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject:

big 4 door sedans with powerfull engines are allways nice!

love to see a 4a-ge'd charmant!
i'd love to see a charmant! Very Happy

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject:

I know of about 10-15 in Ireland but there are more undiscovered too,

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject:

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject:

4 door coolness! Cool

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:38 am Post subject:

Tough day!

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And this is how low my car is.....

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Flat out tomorrow now,

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:42 am Post subject:

Engine in, Loom in, Clutch and brake pedal boxes cut up and ready to go in, I have some detail pics of the pedal setup so people wont have to be guessing what has to be done anymore, took my own approach to the pedal assembly.

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Right, So was looking at the pedal box in the charmant and the brake and clutch pedal box are attached to each other and attached to the steering column mount/support, its one big assembly like....
I knew that I'd have to put in a hydraulic clutch pedal assembly, master cylinder and all that, so I took out the clutch assembly from the cam and eyed it up, it was similar to the charmant assembly barring the facts that it had the hydraulic fittings and was a solitary piece, ie; not attached to the brake assembly or anything else. I compared both further and came to a conclusion. Ill use pictures for this part.

On the left of this picture is the ae86 clutch pedal and brake assemblies, and on the right, the pedal/steering column assembly from the a35 (charmant) You can see that they are almost identical except for mounting positions.

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So I had an idea.
I knew fitting the clutch pedal assembly would be awkward at best and that it would probably be easiest to use the brake pedal assembly from the ae86 too because they would go together easily, as opposed to trying to fit it around the normal a35 assembly.
I cut the brakes and clutch pedals assemblies off the steering column assembly like so,

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This meant I could now use the assemblies from the ae86. The picture below shows how the assemblies would now sit in the car, the pedals side by side and the steering column mount above.

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So that was sweet, I offered all the gear up to see how it looked......
Sickened. The pedals were all over the place, everything was pushed over on to the accelerator pedal.
So I thought, will the charmant pedals fit in the cam assemblies?? Of course they would!

Charmant pedal on top, cam below,

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The brake pedals were they same so I horsed it all in like that, and bam, I more or less have a hydraulic clutch setup in the car, barring drilling 1 medium hole and 2 small holes to fit the master cylinder in the bulkhead.
I also had to cut the cable holder off the charmant clutch pedal in order to fit it in the cam pedal box.

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Here are all the bolts you need to remove to get the charmant pedal/column assembly out,

The first pic are the holes above the rack behind the clocks almost, (4 bolts)

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The second pic are the bolts on the firewall down behind the pedals, (4 bolts)

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The third pic is the bolt above the pedal that is above the rack before you take it off, (1 bolt)

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Hope this helps out some people here doing the same clutch conversion as myself, Ill get pics of the whole lot properly fitted asap.

Bonus picture; my exhaust is underground.

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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:06 am Post subject:

Wow! Nice progress! Thumbsup

Lucky enough I bought a hydrolic clutch assembly for a TA40. But of course the Charmant was not delivered with hydrolic clutch...

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject:

My god, changing an engine on the driveway, with all the gravel etc must be a hell of a job Smile

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject:

It was a pain in the balls! We put down some wood when we put the 4ag in the charmant! Lesson learned!

Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 1 Location: Malaysia

I found this thread through speedhunters.

I'm a 4AGE Charmant owner here in Malaysia, would love to see and read more updates on yours! Keep it coming! Nice thread! Thumbsup

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject:

Hi there, Is my car on speedhunters??
Some small updates recently, the weather has been bad and being an outdoor engine swap its dictated by that,

Had to get a new subframe and steering rack, a rhd manual setup,
got extra lock tierods and am looking for p/s knuckles,

I need fuel lines too as one of mine is kinked badly,

I am half way through the wiring, only the hard parts left! Running on advice from more experienced friends I need to send power to the 4ag ecu, starter motor and coil, Im keeping both looms for neatness, eg; I can keep the inside of the car original, same switches and lights and gauges, Ill power both looms basically but the charmant starter wires and coil wires will go to the 4ag starter motor and ecu/coil, a relay switch for the ecu/coil..... sounds complicated.....

I mated the charmant axle to the 4ag by using the front half of the 4ag prop shaft and the rear half of the charmant prop shaft. I have to repair the t series axle.... It had trd 2way diff and 4.7 cwp but there is a bad knock, Im having trouble getting rhs halfshaft out so I cant see what is broken yet but I suspect a tooth is broken on the cwp,

Bought a set of ssr mesh in gold, 15 x 8 -12.... might sell them again....

I got negative camber rca's so the front end is gonna look mean and be really stable when drifting/diffing......

My brother and I will be making some rca's/ncrca's soon so anyone interested mail me, I might put up a separate thread for them....

Thats all so far, more updates soon!

Takumi Joined: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 314 Location: Lithuania

Hey!! Nice project Smile

Will you be parting out this Trueno (or whats left from it Very Happy

) If so - let me know - i need few LHD parts Very Happy

Also - wheels - if you sell them - intrested too Very Happy

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject:

What you need?

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:14 am Post subject:

SUPER PROJECT!

CORONA like it))

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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject:

Haha, cool thank you,

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:51 am Post subject:

Update!!!!!!

Almost finished.....

Ncrca's on,

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Wiring done by a friend of mine and finished by another friend and myself,

Tank on and fuel lines ran,

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Fitted the charmant filler neck to the cam tank, came out well,

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Close now, parting shot,

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Ps; I scrapped the trueno shell not knowing that some of you here would really like it, it was pretty bad however, Crying or Very sad

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:20 am Post subject:

Great stuff mate! Can't wait to see her drive..

Wondering though, if you got all the parts out of the car and where waiting for dry weather, why not go through the extra trouble of treating stuff like the subframe members to some anti rust treatment? I would have gotten some hamerite spraypaint or POR15 and given everything a quick cleanup.

As for scrapping the shell, your loss, there are plenty of guys on here that would have bought the Trueno front end off of you. It costs easily between 500 and 1000 euro's just to ship one over from the US or Japan. Lights, trim, etc would fetch a nice price to. You could have gotten a nice part of your money back. Is the shell still in a scrapyard or have they crushed the car? Would be worth the effort getting atleast all the trueno parts back.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:23 am Post subject:

Have a few trueno parts left, Ireland is a rip off to ship anything anywhere, in my experience anyway, Ill put up an ad none the less,

Gonna sort the body completely next year, dont have the money to do it right now and I want to do it right, as in shell rebuild,

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject:

Its alive!