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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:37 pm    Post subject: AE86 Models and types ( zenki / kouki ) Reply with quote

Ok here is some info for all the new peepz with the term

"AE86" "hachi roku""

The AE86 is a

Toyota Corolla model build from late 1983 to mid 1987 it has difrent names in difrent parts of the world

from its origin Japan its called.

Corolla Levin and Sprinter Treuno

Levin and trueno are thunder and lightning (if i am not mistaking)

The names are till common in japan.

The rest of the world will mostly see the car markt as "toyota corolla".

The Corolla Sprinter know as the "TE71" is the predicessor of the AE86 they have similiar contruction as most parts from driveline engine etc fit both cars like its own.

The TE71 and AE86 are both RWD and are also the last corolla rwd line.
(excluding MR2, Supra, Celica)

Now we keep seeing 2 letters and 2 numbers WTF is it,

AE stand for its type in this case Corolla (also seen on newer models)
86 is the digit number which keeps him unique to its brothers (newer FWD corolla's)

AE86 is just the number and type of the car and nothing more, it tells you you drive a toyota corolla rwd build from 1983-1987.

Now the term "hachi roku" is easier to explain check up with JAP dictionary and you'll see it just means = 86
hachi = 8 roku = 6

There are 3 difrent names for the car

Levin
Trueno
Corolla GT

There are 4 difrent models

2 Coupe's
2 Hatchbacks

Now here comes the info. The trueno has retracable headlights and the levin has normal ones. Although the trueno is widely sold in the US its still called a Corolla.

so we have a

coupe levin/corolla gt with normal lights
hatchback levin/corolla see above

coupe trueno/corolla gt with retracable headlights
hatchback trueno/corolla gt see above

This is basic info to show what the term and type

AE86 means


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are 4 difrent models

2 Coupe's
2 Hatchbacks


That isnt 100% right - How about the AE86 with a 4AC engine, SR5?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you could agrue that those cars are not AE86's. Although I do think the SR5 does come with an AE86 vin number. In japan though the tuned down version has an AE85 vin if I have understood correctly.

But indeed, for completeness the 4 different models came out in GT trim with the 4AG + LSD and in SR5 trip with 4AC and normal diff.

In that way you could also argue though that you have to mention the pre facelift and post facelift models (kouki and zenki, or is that zenki and kouki:)).


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not perfectly sure about the AE85, but the SR5 is an AE86 to my knowledge...
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But indeed, for completeness the 4 different models came out in GT trim with the 4AG + LSD and in SR5 trip with 4AC and normal diff.

Not all GTs, here in Denmark anyway, got LSD, but allmost Smile


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Jan....I havent heard of any danish GT´s without LSD. Mine is a november ´83 model, and it sure has got it. Or isn´t it related to the year of the model?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I havent seen one either, but the guy I bought mine from used to have one without a LSD Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,

Has nothing to do with years. In some countries LSD was optional (like in Russia) and then there was the SR5 which was the budget model sold in a few countries. It had a 12 valve engine and no LSD if I am not mistaken. But since we dont have SR5s here, I know little about them:)


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are also different types of AE86 during the years, Zenki (early in japanese?), 83-85 and Kouki (Late in japanese?), 85-87.

There are some differenses on the modells, like LSD, drive shafts, bodywork and cannot be exchanged between modells without modification.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Levin = Lightning Trueno = Thunder not the other way around Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot the name GTS.

The SR5 is in my eyes an AE85

Going with it though

i have seen GT models with an drumbrake rear axle with a 4A-GE.

So yes if you check them

Kouki Levin

sr5
gt with lsd
gt without

zenki Levin

sr5
gt with lsd
gt without lsd

etc for the trueno

making it more models

but if you look at it the way i ment it its

2 types of coupe's with to new models

making 4 types of coupe

and 4 types of hatchbacks


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are plenty more variations if you would take a look in japan. The sr5 btw has an ae86 chassis code, whilst the US gts has an AE88 chassis code. The rear AE85 has a smaller engine than the 4a if I'm not mistaken.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

since the modelcode is AE85, there has to be an "A" engine in it.

Maybe the 3A Tercel engine?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor wrote:
since the modelcode is AE85, there has to be an "A" engine in it.

Maybe the 3A Tercel engine?
According to the Club4AG comparison chart it is indeed the 3A-U engine

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The SR5 (US) has a 4AC engine and the Autralian has a 3A...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is kouki and zenki?

And whats up with the black limited? was it a special realese from the factory or what?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s.bjelke wrote:
what is kouki and zenki?

Widar wrote:
There are also different types of AE86 during the years, Zenki (early in japanese?), 83-85 and Kouki (Late in japanese?), 85-87.

There are some differenses on the modells, like LSD, drive shafts, bodywork and cannot be exchanged between modells without modification.

Zenki i just the 83-85, Kouki 85-87, nothing else.
s.bjelke wrote:
And whats up with the black limited? was it a special realese from the factory or what?


Yeah, exactly, black limited is a special release. Real rare cars.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what is kouki and zenki?

Widar wrote:
There are also different types of AE86 during the years, Zenki (early in japanese?), 83-85 and Kouki (Late in japanese?), 85-87.

There are some differenses on the modells, like LSD, drive shafts, bodywork and cannot be exchanged between modells without modification.

Zenki i just the 83-85, Kouki 85-87, nothing else


Correct...zenki lsds have 22 or 23 spline axles while the kouki has 2 extra splines. The only other differences are cosmetic ie: kouki version has wrap around park lights on the bumper while zenki is flat faced...whitline & redline tailghts etc etc. Afaik the drive shafts and panel work are the same but my knowledge only extends to the AUS & JDM versions

fwiw the australian delivered ae86 known as the "Toyota Sprinter" came with 4ac engine & s series rear end (drum)...very much the downscaled version of the JDM release (basically an ae85 without the 3au)

The JDM versions also have gtv, gtz & gt apex. Most of the differences are cosmetic

for those of you interested http://www.billzilla.org/carindex.htmhas some interesting info on variants & upgrades for the ae86 & 4age series of engine[/quote]


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickAE86 wrote:
for those of you interested http://www.billzilla.org/carindex.htmhas some interesting info on variants & upgrades for the ae86 & 4age series of engine series


Read it all Wink Thumbsup

Thx for the clearence of expresions

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ivan141 wrote:
There are plenty more variations if you would take a look in japan. The sr5 btw has an ae86 chassis code, whilst the US gts has an AE88 chassis code.


Wrong. the US GTS AND SR5 BOTH share the chasis code AE86 (they're EXACTLY the same structurally. its the VIN that starts differently on each model (SR5 starts JT2AE86, whilst GTS starts JT2AE88)

Hence why SR5 to GTS conversions are so popular, because they're exactly the same.. and if you plan on a motor swap anyway.. why not start off with a 300 dollar SR5, as opposed to a 3000 dollar GTS?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickAE86 wrote:

The JDM versions also have gtv, gtz & gt apex. Most of the differences are cosmetic


Actually, the GTZ was an option that came up in 1988, with the introduction of the AE92. (Z = Supercharged... was there a factory SC'd AE86? no.)


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you find an SR5 over here, it won't cost 300$. There is one for sale and it ain't in a super great condition. Price is around 1800$. You might as well get a GT.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aico wrote:
Well if you find an SR5 over here, it won't cost 300$. There is one for sale and it ain't in a super great condition. Price is around 1800$. You might as well get a GT.



lucky you Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The JDM versions also have gtv, gtz & gt apex. Most of the differences are cosmetic


Plex wrote:
Actually, the GTZ was an option that came up in 1988, with the introduction of the AE92. (Z = Supercharged... was there a factory SC'd AE86? no.)


not in australia...the gze motors are sourced from the aw11 mr2, ae92 corolla or ae101 levin. Australia only ever recieved the crappy 4ac, drum rear version although i have heard that a very limited release of 4age AE86's did come out but i've never been able to find a genuine one


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im still confused about the term

zenki and kouki

i know there are 2 types of JDM bumpers, one the on in Initial D and the one that the body kits mimmick and there are 2 types of USDM bumpers but theyre pretty much the same thing


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zenki JDM:
AE86 : Technical > AE86 Models and types  zenki  kouki

Kouki JDM:
AE86 : Technical > AE86 Models and types  zenki  kouki
They are pretty much the same, except the turn-signal lights and trueno inlet are a bit higher. Smile
I thought the Initial D trueno is zenki.

And as far as I know Zenki and Kouki US bumpers are the same. You can tell the difference by the taillights. Smile


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