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06-28-2008, 06:59 PM
Post: #1
I need YOUR help!!!!!!
I need your help NOW...........

You've seen the photos..... here are the last ones you all have been expecting...... Note the original MX5 one piece bell housing(in background) in upper left view.

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What you see above is an Aisin Industries AZ6 6 speed, with a bell from a rwd 4AGE attached!!! The photo below is the internal section PRIOR to 25 hours of hand work to make sure the gearbox works as designed!!!

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Over the past 2 years I've been doggedly pursuing what I believe to be the BEST drivetrain upgrade ever conceived for the AE86. You've read the threads.... here they are if you haven't had a chance yet....

http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21207
http://www.hachiroku.net/forums/showthread.php?t=820
http://forums.club4ag.com/zerothread?id=830


The design is done.... All the issues have been overcome one way or another: 1) bell adapter, 2) one piece input shaft, 3) overcoming electronic to mechanical speedometer drive.

To this point this project has cost $10,000(USD). You now see the results of that investment.

Pineapple Racing and Oldeskewltoy have "delivered" what we promised, an entirely NEW drivetrain option that can support twice the torque load of a stock 4AGE, AND delivery better fuel mileage!

Now... here is what I NEED from you....... WE need to know this interests you!!!

Does it?? About a year ago, in some of the depths of this project, I asked for people to email Pineapple Racing to express their interest in this project, to convey to Rob that this is a worthwhile project. I posted this request for emails in 3 or 4 AE86/4AGE forums, with a combined active membership in excess of 5000 (conservative estimate).

Rob got a total of 6 RESPONSES..... If I go back and count(in the above forum posts) all the people who praised this idea* and the arduous task we had been pursuing it adds up to at least 50 of you! * - many saying you were saving for its completion

To put this into production we need to KNOW that there is a desire to see this succeed! We need to KNOW, that this would be a REAL option for you!

As of now (6 respondents) it makes NO sense to finish this project if there are only 6 interested parties WORLD WIDE.....

We've delivered... now it’s your turn!!!


Email Rob.... [email protected] Tell him what you’ve told me!!!!!!!!

Dan -

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06-28-2008, 11:03 PM
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WOW. You have really done it and it looks crazy awesome!

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06-29-2008, 01:49 AM
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F0Bman Wrote:WOW. You have really done it and it looks crazy awesome!

Please help out and E-mail Thumbs up!

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06-29-2008, 04:34 PM
Post: #4
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I think the interest will depend on price...

I'm interested when my gearbox needs an overhaul but it will depend on price.

If it's much more expensive than the overhaul, i'll pass...

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06-29-2008, 05:18 PM
Post: #5
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Concerning AZ6 longevity.... The only ones I know who are not happy are SOME of the S15 owners, because they have found ways to break them. Concerning wear issues, I'd inquire with a miata board/forum.

Right now it ISN'T for sale.... YET

There is $10,000 into it now.... that is the design of the 2 pieces(bell and shaft), and the contruction of the bell. To put this into a small production run(about 25 kits), it will require an additional....

$15,000!!!!!!!!

Now do you see why I want to know if YOU like it??? There is NO reason to invest $15,000 MORE if no one wants one!

This isn't about the design and its purpose anymore...

This is about if there is enough demand to invest $15000 into making 25 kit...........

Dan -

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06-29-2008, 05:20 PM
Post: #6
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same here. if the price is god..

price??
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06-29-2008, 05:56 PM
Post: #7
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The interest will depend on the price, what sort of figures had you in mind?,
there is a Big rally market in Ireland/Scandanavia drift in Ireland/Europe.
Most rally guys I know run a ford combitation, or a Quaife sequential.

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06-29-2008, 06:23 PM
Post: #8
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i abused this 6 speed tranny for 1.5 year now,and it never really broke down on me(exept for a loose shifter bold once),they are close ratio and with a 4.3 ratio in youre rear end,you have the same close ratio when you use a 4.7 and a t50 tranny,really nice stuff Thumbs up!

too bad for you i placed the sr20det also in my hachi :wink:

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06-29-2008, 08:22 PM
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cost(approximately) $1400(USD)** for adapter and input shaft. speedo drive unit is $300 more.

You guys are in Europe... so it isn't likely that you will be purchasing a complete conversion... but if you were, that would go for $3500-$4000.

$3500-$4000 is the range you can use to compare to other transmission options


** - € = 889, £ = 702 ¥ = 148,625

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06-29-2008, 09:14 PM
Post: #10
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for 4000 i can rebuld my t50 alot of times:-(
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