16V vs BEAMS
09-20-2016, 04:23 PM
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16V vs BEAMS
Red car running the BEAMS, both have AZ6 gearboxes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOCzImQIpmg
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09-21-2016, 10:31 AM
Post: #2
16V vs BEAMS
Some nasty 16 reving like that above 8000 rpm Smile.

But as someone said in comments, 25%+ ccm must show Smile
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09-21-2016, 12:15 PM
Post: #3
16V vs BEAMS
Would love to check the AZ6 fitment..... Wink
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09-21-2016, 05:24 PM (This post was last modified: 09-21-2016 05:31 PM by oldeskewltoy.)
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(09-20-2016 04:23 PM)harkes Wrote:  Red car running the BEAMS, both have AZ6 gearboxes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOCzImQIpmg

Exclamation

great!

Note the BEAMS car only really pulls on the 16V in 2nd, and/or 3rd, and higher...(huge assumption) - similar peak hp... but the extra volume (cc's) provides more torque throughout the entire rpm band.... this becomes more obvious as the gears are rowed

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09-22-2016, 04:47 AM (This post was last modified: 09-27-2016 12:52 AM by harkes.)
Post: #5
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Obviously a high performance 2.0 should be able to beat even a highly tuned 1.6. The BEAMS owner claims 230hp and 230nm on a stock engine with ITB's and a costum tune...

My own experience is that he really starts pulling on me in 3rd. Further more, he doesn't hit the gas until I do so that give me a little head start.
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09-22-2016, 10:23 AM
Post: #6
16V vs BEAMS
harkes..... i still want to see pictures of the AZ6 assembly! =D
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09-22-2016, 10:24 AM
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16V vs BEAMS
Both engines sound sweeeeet!
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09-22-2016, 06:27 PM
Post: #8
16V vs BEAMS
What about the 16v setup?
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09-27-2016, 12:51 AM (This post was last modified: 09-27-2016 01:00 AM by harkes.)
Post: #9
16V vs BEAMS
(09-21-2016 12:15 PM)pack Wrote:  Would love to check the AZ6 fitment..... Wink

Hi Pack

Found an old picture that shows the essence of the swap. The in/out-put splines are different so I am running a LiteAce clutch friction plate. You can find AZ6's with the clutch release lever on either side.

(09-22-2016 06:27 PM)Andrax Wrote:  What about the 16v setup?

Smallport with stock valves and valve springs, Silvertop ITB, F/A conrods and pistons (courtesy of Mr. Oldskewltoy), CR of 11.3, OMEX 500, ~300° 8.4 cams, full Martelius R1 exhaust, ported head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcAgVAElXQo


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09-27-2016, 10:52 AM
Post: #10
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Now we need Beams vs F20C.
I think I know which would win tbh, despite VTec. The Beams just has bags more torque.

With the same gearing ratios, you may get a tiny advantage by being able to rev so high with the F20, shift later, but the torque of the Beams would just pull on you.
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